About the Author:
David Alpuche is a photographer/entrepreneur from Mexico City. He has won multiple speaking awards in Toastmasters, was named “Chapter Leader of the Year” by the National Stuttering Association, and is currently one of the leaders in To Be Like Me, a non-profit dedicated to breaking down the barriers that exist for those with disabilities and shed light on the positive impact of inclusion, ignite compassion, and foster awareness of the unique abilities of others. David likes to stay active by playing soccer, volleyball, and doing yoga. He speaks multiple languages and also likes to play chess, read, and listen to live music. |
“I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples.” —Mother Teresa
In the last decade I have talked about stuttering in front of thousands of people. At chapter meetings of the National Stuttering Association, at universities, at Toastmasters meetings, at conferences, in classrooms, in front of children, in front of adults, online, and in person.
Today I can proudly say that I like being known as “the guy who stutters.”
Trust me, I wasn’t always like this and it’s been a long path, but I can tell you exactly where it started.
As is the case for most guys, it started with a woman. I met her in 2011 at my first conference of the National Stuttering Association. Let’s call her Catherine. Before I met her I had never had a female friend who stuttered, but she was way more than that. She was not only a person who stuttered herself, she was also a Speech Pathology student, and to round it up, she was gorgeous. Not going to lie, I was totally infatuated by her. After spending some time together at the conference we stayed in touch. We would send each other messages. We would write each other letters and send gifts. In a gesture that only magnifies the level of comfort I had with her, we would even talk on the phone! For hours! *gasp*
It was beautiful, but I’m not here to tell you about my short-lived-love-story. I want to tell you about a conversation we had one night, that I believe changed the course of my life and gave it some meaning that I still carry to this day.
Both Catherine and I were passionate about stuttering. We would talk about it often, and from a variety of perspectives. We shared this one thing, but we were actually very different: I grew in Mexico City; she grew up in the American Midwest. My first language is Spanish, learning English as a child; she grew up with English, and was learning Spanish as an adult. She had speech therapy since she was a kid, and was going to college to become a Speech Pathologist herself; I was taken by my mom to a “witch,” in a small town in Mexico, as a last resort to try to cure my stutter. We were very different but that just made for the best conversations.
One night we were talking about how stuttering is portrayed in the media, and the both of us felt a disconnect between what we wished we would see on TV, and what was actually there. In short, we both agreed that the only people who you saw on the TV talking about stuttering… didn’t stutter. They were always “I used to stutter” people. They were “I overcame stuttering” people.
It was James Earl Jones talking about how as a kid his life was hell because he stuttered, but he practiced reading poetry in front of the mirror until he could recite them fluently, and that’s why he had a career. Once he learned to say his lines without a stutter he became a success.
It was Samuel L. Jackson, who discovered he could use the word “motherfucker” to get through a speech block, and found his calling when he learned to “pretend to be other people who didn’t stutter.”
The narrative behind all their stories was this: only when I stopped stuttering my life improved. It was mostly people who, if I named them, you would more than likely say “really? I didn’t know they stuttered!”
Catherine was a smart woman, with a good education and access to therapy since she was a kid, but she still stuttered. Me? I don’t have a college degree but you better not call me dumb, I am a confident smartass that loves to argue! I know the techniques, I know stuttering back and forth, or at least what we know so far, yet I still can’t say my name at first try to save my life.
Some people outgrow their stuttering, some people learn to control it with therapy, some hide it, but for Catherine, myself, and millions of people around the world, stuttering is something that will stay with us. It’s not that we are not trying hard enough, it’s just the way we talk.
That night, both of us wished that there was “somebody famous” who stuttered and didn’t hide it. Somebody who was just out doing his or her thing, stuttering publicly, and didn’t look mortified or embarrassed by speaking differently. Somebody cool that was so much more than you wouldn’t care that they couldn’t speak normally.
Then, she said it: “Why not you?” What? “Yeah, why not you? You are obviously passionate about it. You are interesting. You are funny. You are super outgoing. I think you’d be a good spokesman for stuttering.”
My usual smartass self had no answer.
Writing about this moment makes me smile because I remember just staring at her while in my mind I kept searching for reasons why it couldn’t possibly be me. Forget about talking about stuttering publicly with others, back then I wouldn’t even admit it to myself. I was juuuuust at the very beginning of my “stuttering journey.” I had just found out that I was part of the community. I was new to my chapter of the NSA. I was just starting to feel less alone. I was barely scraping by working at a restaurant. I was totally not THAT guy…. but…
“An aim, an ambition, provides the structure necessary for action. An aim provides a destination, a point of contrast against the present, and a framework within which all things can be evaluated. An aim defines progress and makes such progress exciting. An aim reduces anxiety because if you have no aim, everything can mean anything or nothing, and neither of those two options makes for a tranquil spirit. What you aim at determines what you see.” – Jordan Peterson, in 12 Rules for Life.
Over the following months little by little I started to change. I started to talk about stuttering with the people around me, like friends and coworkers. Then it grew to friends of friends. Then I started posting about stuttering on social media. Then a friend, who was a speech pathologist at an elementary school, invited me to talk to a class of 5th graders, and I talked to them about facing their fears, while facing mine. Then I joined Toastmasters. Then I became leader of my local chapter of the NSA. Then I started to get invites to be a guest on stuttering podcasts. Then I was asked to be one of the hosts of Stutter Social, an online support group. Then I presented at conferences. Then I started being invited to be part of panels about stuttering at universities all over the country. Then I was recruited by a non-profit called To Be Like Me to be one of their “stuttering experts,” and teach children around Dallas about stuttering.
Then, one night a couple years ago while talking with a good friend, he asked me how I got so involved with the stuttering community and I replied (after an undisclosable amount of drinks): you know how there are people that become synonymous with something? Like if somebody says “basketball” you think Michael Jordan, or maybe Lebron or Kobe? It doesn’t have to be just one person, but it’s only a handful of people that come to mind? I kinda wanna be that guy for stuttering. I don’t even want them to know my name, I’ll be happy if when somebody brings up stuttering somebody goes “oh, yeah, there’s that one guy… he’s cool.” I don’t think there’s competition to be that that guy, you know?
It’s been almost 10 years since that first conversation with Catherine and I don’t think I’m that guy yet, but who knows… If stuttering has taught me anything it is patience.
Or if it’s not me, why not you?
Awesome story, David! Thanks for sharing. 😃
Great story, David. Keep doing what you’re doing, my friend.
I greatly enjoyed reading your story, David! It was great to hear how you and Catherine could connect on the topic of stuttering despite your different backgrounds with treatment. I am sure that your openness and confidence to speak openly about stuttering has made a lasting impact on many, many people. You certainly reminded me that everyone can make a major impact if they find their passion and take steps toward making their goals a reality.
Thank you!
Well, yeah, that was my point and I think the theme of this online conference: if we, as people who stutter, want to be understood, it’s up to us to talk about it, and show it to people, and be as visible as possible. That’s the only way to make it common!
Thanks for reading it 🙂
HOW INSPIRING!!! I truly admire the difference you are making. I love the idea of stuttering openly. I believe people should be who they are and surroundings should be accepted.
Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure, thanks for reading and commenting.
Hi David
Thanks so much for sharing your story. I remember us meeting in 2011, and remember my own fear of stuttering.
It has been wonderful to see your change and growth, and to try myself to learn from you. You are already a guiding light. And as you wrote to Leah, “if we, as people who stutter, want to be understood, it’s up to us to talk about it, and show it to people, and be as visible as possible. That’s the only way to make it common!”. Exactly.
Thank you
Hanan
Hi Hanan!
Actually I met you in 2011 at that very same conference, and if I’m being honest you might have been the very first person that talked to me at that event. I remember being blown away by you coming to Texas all the way from Israel.
You inspired me that time, I guess it’s time to return the favor 😉
Hi David,
I really enjoyed reading about your journey. I never thought about how, in the media, we most often see representations of stuttering as people who “used to stutter” or people who “overcame stuttering.” Representation of people who currently stutter is undoubtedly needed, and I love how Catherine inspired you to be that guy! You seem to be making a huge difference so far with your many involvements! I look forward to seeing what you do in the future.
Megan
Thank you Megan!
To be honest I didn’t know where that conversation was going to take me, but over the years my goal has been refined (and defined) little by little, until what it is today. I can only imagine how much of a difference it would’ve made if, as a kid, I had seen people like me on TV.
Thanks for reading and leaving a comment.
I really appreciated the candidness of this essay, David, and I appreciate you for often talking about uncomfortable topics. Thanks for hitting the nail on the head about something that’s been bothering me for a long time about representation of people who stutter—the examples are almost always people who “overcame” stuttering and can now pass for fluent. And like you, I can relate to the story of your mom bringing you to a “witch” to cure stuttering, haha.
Hey there!
Thanks for reading and leaving a comment. What kind of witch did you go to? What did you do?
It was more of a fortuneteller/astrologer-type person who read my star charts and told my mom I was “normal.”
Hi David!
Thank you so much for sharing your story, I really enjoyed reading it. I have always had the same thought as you and your friend Catherine. I’ve always wondered why there aren’t more popular figures who stutter. I do have a question for you – What was it like growing up stuttering in a Hispanic household? I read that your mom took you to a “witch” to cure your stuttering, but what other situations did you face?
Hello, Elizabeth!
Well, I think the main reason why there is not more representation or popular figures who stutter is because, in the general sense, there are not many people who stutter who are outgoing and proud enough to be out there in the spotlight. It does take a certain kind of courage to be out there in public stuttering without the fear of being judged or misunderstood, you know? But it only takes one to show what is possible to inspire others to follow, so that’s my hope.
As far as “growing in a Spanish household” I will preface that I grew up in Mexico, so everybody was Hispanic in my house and around it. I make the distinction just so you know where I am coming from.
Growing up in one country and living as an adult in another, it’s very easy to notice the differences. I think that Hispanic people are faster to finish sentences for me, or to point out my stutter or make fun of it. I think that culturally there’s a little less respect for differences, than here in the US, and that is evident quickly. I don’t know if it’s lack of education, or impatience, or a faster instinct “to help” but it’s noticeably different.
As far as other specific situations, I think there are more civil rights and protections here when it comes to discrimination in the workplace, for example, but I am far removed from the workplace in Mexico to be able to speak to it from experience.
Thanks for reading and I hope my answer helps!
Hi David,
Thank you for sharing your story. I am not a person who stutters, rather a speech pathology graduate student. I agree that in the media, there is not a well-known person that openly shares their current stutter. Not only do I think you are brave for wanting to be that person, but I think you will be a model for children who stutter. Just like the analogy you used of LeBron James being the person you think of when you think of a person that represents basketball, you (and/or other individuals who stutter and are proud of it/don’t try to hide it) will be that person for that little kid that is embarrassed of their stutter.
Thank you for your comment!
Yes, and that’s my hope. I can only imagine how much of a difference it would’ve made if, as a kid, I had seen people like me on TV. It would’ve normalized it for me (at least a little), and made me feel less alone.
That’s my goal, really, to be the person I needed when I was a kid.
I enjoyed reading this a lot, David. Excellent story and I think I may have guessed who “Catherine” is 🤔🙃 I always enjoy witnessing people grow into “that stuttering guy/gal” from when I first meet them as an NSA first timer.
Thanks again for becoming a Stutter Social host, too.
Thank you, Daniele.
I wonder who you think Catherine is… 🤔
Hello!
Thank you so much for sharing a piece of yourself with us! Within this movement in advocating for fluency, representation in media gets brought up a lot. But you point out a significant point that so much of it is about overcoming stuttering instead of someone openly stuttering. We’ve come to better understand “inspiration porn” and I feel like the narrative about overcoming stuttering not only fits that but also inadvertently causes more damage as you explained. This idea also makes me reconsider other representations of marginalized communities in media that I’ve seen before and question how much of it is really raising awareness/true representation vs. perpetuating harmful narratives such as “once I got over X, my life got better.” I appreciate your candidness!
Thank you for reading!
My goal is just to be somebody that a kid can point to and feel less alone because of it. I know I will never ever reach Lebron James’s level of fame, but I just want to make stuttering normal, and visible, and acceptable, and the only way to accomplish it is by putting myself out there and owning it.
Hi David!
Thank you so much for sharing your story! It was so sweet and uplifting being able to read your story about how you met Catherine and how your relationship was with her. I love hearing about love stories, even if it was short-lived. I am currently a SLP student and I was wondering if you had any advice for me on my journey to become a SLP?
Thank you,
Angelica
Hi Angelica,
I’d recommend you to ask questions, understand that you are working with a unique individual that will come with his/her own baggage, so meet them where they are without assumptions.
Being here is already a good sign that you care about learning, so thank you for that.
David! You are that guy in my book! Great job in bringing about a perspective that, as you mention, is overlooked in societies today. Not only that, what is powerful about your message is how you present it in narrative. You’re a great storyteller.
You challenged me in thinking about other struggles, or maybe personal circumstances to be general, that distract people from accomplishing their goals or becoming who they want to be. If you don’t mind me asking, who are some individuals, besides Catherine, who have helped create your framework, encouraging you to step on those stages and classrooms and continue pursuing your life goals?
Thanks again David for sharing!
So many!
Being part of the Stuttering community has exposed me to hundreds of people that are doing things that I thought were not possible when I was growing up.
In my local chapter of the NSA in Dallas we have a guy named Russ Hicks that made a huge impression on me. He is older, and stutters severely, but he never seemed to care. I remember meeting him and being amazed by his confidence and demeanor. He showed me that stuttering wasn’t that big of a deal.
Hey David!
Thank you for your insightful share.
If not you then who, if not you then when?
One of the most pervasive critical components of our being is we don’t believe in our capabilities.
Neverthelss,here you are presenting your own story and while it was a simple capture of it, I am grateful for it. You have proven to me that what power is lead when you embrace what others have boxed as what needs to be corrected! May you always continue to be a smart’bum’ who loves to argue.
Hope to hear from you soon!
A fellow smart’bum’,
Morgan
Thank you, Morgan.
There’s a TED talk by Brene Brown about embracing vulnerability that made a huge impression on me. She said that embracing vulnerability is the key to courage, and creating connection with others, and I’ve seen it come true over and over again. Be yourself, show your weaknesses without fear and people will embrace and support you.
Hi David,
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I think you pose a great question, not just for PWS, but for everyone. Why can’t we be that person? I admire your boldness and willingness to be that guy. As a student studying speech pathology, I’m curious to know if you ever received therapy (besides the witch), and if so, what if any impact it had on you? Thanks!
Oh, a speech therapist changed my life!
You can read about it on my first essay for ISAD: https://isad.live/isad-2017/papers-presented-by/stories-and-experiences-with-stuttering-by-pws/it-starts-with-you/
I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for her and the power she gave me.
Hi David, What an incredible journey! I really enjoyed reading about your different upbringing and how you came to be “that cool guy who stutters”. I also agree with you, that PWS are not portrayed fairly in TV or Film. your article makes me question Why can’t actors be praised for being brave and not hiding their stutter? why aren’t actors who stutter given main roles, or even the roles that portray stuttering? Thanks for sharing your story! -Maria Balkji
Thanks for reading Maria.
I think part of it is that people who stutter are usually not bold enough to be seen publicly like that. It does take a special kind of courage to be public about it. To be honest, even though I have been doing all this public speaking, I rarely view or listen to my interviews or appearances. I don’t like how I look, I don’t like how I sound. I don’t think I’ll ever be perfectly ok with watching myself on video, but I think it doesn’t matter, I don’t do this for myself 🙂
Hi David! I really enjoyed reading your article! I totally agree with your perspective – that representation in the media of people that are stuttering openly and are accepting of their stutter is definitely needed! I applaud you for stepping up and being “that guy!” It was very inspiring to read about your story and how the stuttering community has brought you together with people who empower and motivate each other. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for reading Kate.
Yep, you’re THAT GUY!
LOVED your story David!
I’m trying!
Hi David!I had a great time reading your essay. I completely share your view that there is a need for media depiction of persons who stutter openly and are accepting of their stutter. It was incredibly motivating to read about your experience and how the stuttering community connected you with individuals that inspire and empower one another. I’m currently an undergrad student studying to become a speech therapist!
My question to you is – would you say that you have become more fluent as you got older/after embracing your stutter? I’m interested in learning about your insight/experiences!
I appreciate you sharing,
Valerie
Hello Valerie,
I have gone to speech therapists and I’ve learned techniques to improve my fluency. I can be fluent when I want to, it just takes so much work that most of the time I choose to stay in the middle… some fluency but without caring about the outcome or obsessing over it, you know?
But also yes, growing up makes you see things differently and your priorities change. I don’t see my stutter as my defining characteristic anymore, it’s just something I do, so I care less, and consequentially that makes me stutter less.
Good luck being an SLP!
H i David,
i really enjoyed reading your tory. Can you please give me advice on how to gain confidence on embracing a stutter?
Of course!
I would say that confidence comes from knowing your worth and value. I know that I stutter but I am a smart guy. My words might come out stuttery, but I know my ideas are worth hearing, so that gives me the incentive to keep speaking.
People like that, you know? I always say “make your words worth waiting for”.
Hi David,
Thank you so much for your thoughts. I actually saw a poster of “Famous People Who Stutter” a few weeks ago, and literally had the thought, “I didn’t know they stuttered” about all but one, King George. So they message of, “Look, they stutter and are successful and famous” isn’t one that can really be identified with, because no where have you ever seen or heard these people stutter.
I think many people want change, but hope for someone else to be the person to make it. I loved your message – Why not you? It made me think about what I can do to make changes, rather than expect other people to.
Thank you,
Isabella
Exactly! I had the same feeling with that poster… I mean, if you don’t know they stutter, are they still people who stutter? That’s a topic worth debating.
In any case, yeah, it’s easier to expect somebody else to do the work, and when Catherine asked me that.. I just didn’t have an excuse to not try, you know?
Thanks for reading!
Hi David,
I loved reading about your passion for stuttering and your story. I liked your points about successful people being the ones who used to stutter or “overcame” stuttering to be successful. I have two questions, what did the “witch”/bruja do to “cure” your stuttering? And are there times now that you ever feel overwhelmed trying to become the guy who stutters or is it easy now?
Thank you so much!
Hello!
First, about the witch, she did a “cleanse” on me. She had stuff burning, she prayed, she hit me lightly with some branch, she rubbed some eggs on me… you know, regular witch stuff LOL! It wasn’t scary, but it was unusual and I knew that was not really going to make a difference.
And about the feeling overwhelmed: not really. I am not doing anything that would be considered extraordinary, I think. I just started being myself and that resonated with people, and when I started being “that guy” in the right circles, I started to be invited to meetings, talks, etc. It slowly grew from there.
Now I speak publicly a lot, but it’s all about sharing my experiences and ideas, so it’s not even hard work.
Thanks for reading!
David,
Wow, what a beautiful story! Thank you for sharing, and I think you bring up an interesting point about how celebrities talk about how they “used” to stutter. Very rarely do you hear celebrities talk about how they currently stutter. Media representation is important for everyone, and I commend you for taking on that role as a PWS. While I am not a PWS, I can still appreciate all the work you’ve put into advocacy and education, and I bet you have many impacted others in a huge way!
– Ellison Hill
Thank you for reading, Ellison.
I always say that I just want to be the person I needed when I was a kid. Somebody just showing me that I could stutter and still have conversations and jokes with people. Somebody being OK with being different.
Hi David!
I really liked the points you made about all we hear from famous people who stutter is how they overcome it. Although for yourself and Cathrine it’s not that you guys did not try to overcome it, you both and other PWS couldn’t which should not be viewed as a negative. We should normalize PWS and share the knowledge with those who are not aware that it is just they way you talk.
Thank you,
Ivana Andrade
Thank you for reading Ivana.
I still think that those people, the “I overcame my stutter” should be out there, because that is also a possibility, but they shouldn’t be the only examples of stuttering out there. We need the funny people who stutter, and the insightful people who stutter, and the outgoing people who stutter, too.
You already ARE, David. A famous PWS who doesn’t hide it. We need more cool guys like you who make stuttering OK. So keep talking and stay that smartass you are, as that’s the guy we like, and want to be. 😉
Anita
Awwww thanks, Anita!
You know you are part of the group that keep inspiring me to do this every day. I’m just standing on the shoulders of giants.
Hi David! I really enjoyed your story! It was very engaging to read the goals you had and how both you and Catherine embrace your stutter rather than try to hide it! I am very inspired by your ambition and how you chose to chase to become THAT guy! Is there anyone who you currently look up to as a famous person who stutters and what about them do you idolize?
Hi!
Nobody that you would consider “famous” outside the stuttering community, but I am a huge fan of people I’ve met by being part of the National Stuttering Association. People like Anita Blom, Douglas Scott, Annie Bradberry, Pamela Mertz, Marc Winski, and many others who keep pushing the boundaries and inspire me to keep going.