About the Author: Anita Blom, born and raised in the Netherlands, is living in Sweden. She worked as an operation manager for the Workers’ Educational Association. She has been a board member, incl chairperson, of stuttering organisations on local, national, European and International level, and an advisory board member of several international stuttering organisations. She was a national and international keynote speaker on stuttering, had her own stuttering consultant company, was one of the Stutter Social hosts, was a project leader of several stuttering projects, and twice Member of the Year. She has an award-winning stuttering activist, acknowledged by Voice Unearthed on the Wall Of Inspiration, Stamma, and many others, on local, national and international level. She was also a leader of national and international children and youth camps for over 20 years. Anita, aka Scatsis, has stuttered since she was 9 and had a troublesome youth because of her stuttering. She went from being silent, to giving stuttering a voice, from pre-school children to the European Parliament, now inspiring people who stutter of all ages, they can make a difference. Do check out her previous papers to the ISAD online conferences. Due to health issues she now has to take it slow, but is still an inspiration to many, especially young people who stutter and those with ME/cfs. Her device, that’s now been used all over the world is “Sure I stutter. What are you good at?”. |
Matt Stutzman made it to the semifinals at the Paralympics. He’s an archerer. Wow, how amazing! He’s missing both arms, and yet he’s doing it. His photos have gone viral.
We’re people who stutter (and clutter). Our voice is not fluent. Sometimes we really struggle. And yet, we’re doing it. Talking. All day, every day.
So… why is one applauded for doing what’s hard, but doing it anyway, and the other is told to fix it or hide it? What is it that puts stuttering in the shame-corner? Could it be that people with visible, physical disabilities (and their parents) have fought so hard to no longer be hidden in a facility, and instead demanded their right to be a part of society, just the way they are, with adjustments that are now law? But when people stutter, we feel we need to hide? When a certain well-known person publicly mimics and makes fun of a man who has CP, the world gets upset. Yet, it still seems to be OK to mimic and make fun of a person who stutters. Why are we still treading in such a slow pace to step out of the shadow and show the world we exist, what stuttering is about, and what we need to speak the way we chose to speak?
When I was told I was doing something “wrong”, I didn’t understand why my stuttering was said to be “wrong”. But as it was said by so many others, I believed it. Stuttering was wrong. I was wrong. And they also told me I was the one to fix it. Today, years later, we’re still not there yet. Sure, it’s getting more accepted to stutter in certain countries, but the shame-stamp is still there. People are being shamed, or even hit, simply because they stutter. And not just that, there are still popping up “new” therapies and technical equipment aimed at masking stuttering, hiding it. Again making us aware of every stuttered syllable, telling us Oops you stuttered. Again. Try again. Take a deep breath. Slow down. This is not accepted and must change.
When someone says something nice about us, telling us we’re good at something, we do not always believe it. Why, if we do 1000 things right, we keep focusing on that one thing we feel we do “wrong”. So therapy and devices that tell us “Oops, wrong”, could wipe out every positive feeling of “I stuttered, but I SAID it!”, exchanging it with “I stuttered, I said it, but I said it WRONG”.
Now I know some people want full acceptance, while others want full therapy to become fluent. And there should be space for both, and all in between. But whatever road you are on, make sure it’s a road chosen by YOU. And that this road is not shamed with WRONG if you can’t win that marathon. Or if you settle with simply wanting to improve your skills, instead of being told you’re not good enough and it’s your fault if you “fail to win”. Set your (own) goals, whatever they may be, but make every step count. And when high enough, celebrate the steps you’ve taken.
What if people, including ourselves, would realize…
… that our Paralympics are every day, so applaud the efforts.
… that talking in front of people is fear no 1, and yet most of us do it, while many fluent people don’t.
… that people who stutter win Toastmasters contests.
… that communication is a two-way street, so the better they communicate (not interrupting, remaining eye contact, speaking in a communicative way), the better we can communicate as well.
But most of all, LISTEN. Not to how we speak, but to what we’re saying. When it’s hard to speak, I might not speak freely, but I chose my words, and chose the people I want to talk to, and make the effort for. So, when I speak to you, I have something to say, and I find you worth my effort. You’re the one I feel safe to talk to and with whom I want to share my thoughts. You have the job offer that I feel fits me and my qualifications, and that I’m ready to give it my all. So instead of judging me for my stutter, judge me for my courage and efforts.
And guess what, because I’m used to finding it hard to jump in a conversation where other people talk, I’ve learned to listen. I’ve learned to observe. Your body language while you’re speaking. Your tone of voice. When I was young, I was bullied and totally ignored to the core I tried to stop living, and yet when my bullies needed someone to listen, they came to me.
My first boyfriend heard I stuttered, but he listened and found out I was worth listening to. My first boss told people who didn’t want to talk to me, but asked for him, that they better listen to me, as I was just as skilled as him. And maybe this is why I became a public speaker, and found my full potential when I was headhunted to be a teacher: when I talk others have to listen. 😉
But that also meant I had to listen to, and believe, people who told me I was good enough. (I even have these very words tattooed on my arm today). And not listen to people, and my inner voice, who told me I couldn’t because I stutter (something I was told throughout my youth).
I also have had the pleasure to host camps for children with their parents, and young adults who stutter. I listen to the stories from the parents, who think it’s their fault their kids stutter, and to explain it is not. I listen to the chatter from the kids who finally feel they are not alone and won’t stop talking, and hear both great stories of good practice, and horror stories from teachers who don’t get it, and help kids and parents how to speak to teachers and classmates (and I used to visit schools and make them listen, telling cool stories until the kids raise their hands and say “I too want to learn how to stutter!”). I also listen to young adults who finally open up, laugh, cry, share private stories (not only about stuttering), as they finally feel listened to, and give them love, hope, empowerment and well-needed hugs.
Someone recently wrote that people with disabilities are a nuisance, as “they always demand adjustments”. That person wasn’t listening. We’re not demanding adjustments. We’re demanding respect. Because not interrupting, not filling in words, remaining eye contact, etc, has nothing to do with demanding adjustments, not even with stuttering. It has everything to do with a respectful conversation. And I know that people do not always have time to listen. Sometimes we’re just so eager to tell what we want to tell, there’s no room for others. Some people have so many other things on their minds they can’t focus on listening. I myself am one of those. So I can’t demand that everyone should listen to me, just because I stutter.
In a recent post we were asked what to do to make people listen. Sometimes when people fill in my words, I ignore that and still finish my sentence, or say “I was getting to that, but now it takes me even more words to say what I wanted to say”. Sometimes I clearly stop talking and make the “lock my lips” gesture, and raise my hands as in “I give up”. Sometimes I raise my hand as in class. Remember, most people don’t realize they take over a conversation. My husband often continues my sentences, as we’ve been married for too long. 😉 But when making them aware, by explaining that their behavior only makes me stutter more, and using a bit of humor, we not only get space to talk, we raise awareness as well. Also when you choose to speak with a certain technique, tell your listener, so that they can be a supportive listener.
I’ve given many workshops on Speaking Circles during the years. By not just teaching the speaker, but also teaching the important role of the listener, speakers learn to speak in public, and listeners learn to listen. I also watched many videos of people who spoke in a way that made others listen. One thing struck me: they pause. As pausing makes people listen, wondering what will be said next. Compare that with people who talk all the time, as much and as fast as they can, while not really saying anything at all.
Listening might be the key to stuttering becoming the new normal. When we know people listen, without judgement, we might start to speak freely, saying what we want to say, in a way that is OK for ourselves to speak. But for that we also need to stop listening to that little voice in our heads telling us stuttering is wrong, and listen to people saying we’re good enough, no matter how we speak.
So let’s focus on what we’re saying, and say it with pride. We’re doing our best. Now our listeners should do their best too. By listening patiently.
Keep talking
”Sure I stutter. What are you good at.”
Welcome to my paper. I hope it gave you food for thought. Feel free to comment and ask me any questions.
Hi Mrs. Blom, My name is Brooklyn! I am currently in my second year of a master’s program in Speech-Language Pathology, and enrolled in a course on Fluency Disorders. I want to express my gratitude for your insightful article on stuttering and the journey toward acceptance and empowerment. I thoroughly enjoyed reading about your personal experiences and advocacy work, particularly your transition from silence to advocacy. I wholeheartedly agree with your emphasis on the importance of listening — to both the words of those who stutter and to the supportive environment that fosters communication without judgment. Your call for respect and understanding is crucial, as it highlights the effort required for individuals who stutter to express themselves. As I gain knowledge about various fluency disorders and engage with individuals who stutter, I am becoming increasingly aware of the emotional and physical challenges they face. I appreciate your advocacy for a diverse range of therapeutic approaches that empower individuals to choose their own paths, whether that involves seeking fluency or embracing their stuttering. After reading your article, I would like to pose the following question: How can therapy models be adapted to prioritize individuals’ personal goals and experiences with stuttering, ensuring they feel empowered rather than pressured to conform to societal standards of fluency? Thank you once again for your valuable insights.
Hi Anita, there is so much food for thought in your article!
One thing it made me think about is how the variability of stuttering often leads me to modulate my identity depending on the environment I am in, and its degree of inclusiveness.
And this on the one hand is human and understandable… I do it to protect myself. But on the other it’s exhausting… how I wish everyone knew I stutter, once and for all.
Andrea
Why don’t you tell them than. 😉 Because it’s not only taking the elephant out of the room for you, but also for your listener. You can just sneak it into a conversation. Like “I was at this stuttering event this summer and did some sightseeing”. If they’re interested, this is your change to advertise and open up the conversation. 😉 As they might know someone who stutters and are dying to learn more. If not, just as OK.
But I’m overt, so I have two choices: to stutter or not talk at all. Being covert has a third option which is way harder, physically and emotionally: hiding. Which is so much more exhausting.
I learned not to apologize from the disability community. They claim their space. And people (well most…) learned to adjust to THEM. It’s about time we claim our right to be and speak the way we are as well. We have the right to stutter. They have the right to listen. And the right not to. And miss out on you, your friendship, your humor, your intelligence. Their loss.
Keep talking my dear friend, as what we’re saying is worth repeating.
Anita
Hi Anita,
I completely agree with your statement that people with disabilities are not demanding adjustments; they only want respect, as every person deserves. We are taught not to interrupt, maintain eye contact, and listen to a person while having a conversation, so why would we not be expected to do the same with a person with disabilities? Thank you for shedding light on this and giving me some food for thought.
Spot on, Roxana! The only thing we ask is to wait until we’re finished. And if you don’t have time, simply tell us. Common curtesy. You don’t “help” by dragging a blind person across the road. You don’t tell a deaf person s/he has to fix the hearing, simply because that’s easier for the listener. You don’t tell a kid in a wheelchair to run the track just like the other kids. And yet, when we stutter, we need, or feel the need (!) to adjust. Nope. It’s time to claim our right to speak the way WE feel is good enough for US. Whether that’s with or without techniques. That takes enough of mental and physical effort as it is.
Keep talking
Anita
Hi Anita, I enjoyed reading your article. “It has everything to do with a respectful conversation.” I couldn’t agree more! When my son stuttered for about 1-2 years, the “adjustments” we made in our home environment related to talking turns, waiting for our turn, not interrupting, not rushing in conversations, being fully present in our interactions by minimizing distractions and demonstrating attentiveness with our eyes and bodies, it wasn’t just about stuttering, it was about learning RESPECTFUL COMMUNICATION. And we ALL benefitted – me, my husband, our daughter, and our son! It’s truly a win-win whether or not the stuttering stops.
So true Ana Paula. These days I find people talking faster than ever before, with less patience to wait for the other to finish. And this is with people who don’t stutter. Also look at children’s movies: the speed of both speech and the movie itself is racing! So yes, simply go back to speaking in a speed that gives time for the listener to really listen, comprehend and give a mindful reply, is not only beneficial to PWS, but to everyone. Lately I spend more time with seniors and I love it. They take more time to speak and to listen. The only thing is that they love to give advice on how to stop stuttering… Like today, when I spoke to an elderly lady who told me to sing… We still have a long way to go, but we’re getting there. Baby steps. 😉 Greetings to your son and keep talking.
Anita
Sis… “We’re not demanding adjustments. We’re demanding respect.” Amen to that! You nail the importance of being seen and heard for who we are, without needing to ‘adjust’ ourselves for others’ comfort. The better educated the listener is on stuttering, the more we’ll come across more people listening without judgement. It’s about respect and owning our space, and that message can’t be said enough, so keep talking… but I know you will 😉
Gina
Spot on, Sis. We simply want people to be a respectful listener. When listening to radio programs or talkshows, not to mention political debates, people are not mindful. They love their own voices more than the voice of the person they speak with. They diarrhea of words is endless, but the message only consists of a few words. With PWS, it often takes efforts to speak, and we’re not always as happy to hear our own voices (unfortunately) so we’re less proned to ramble. And instead, what we say is worth listening to. 😉 So let’s keep talking, and taking up space in a conversation. What we say is worth repeating. 🙂
Anita
Hi Anita – I always love your perspective. It’s so honest and informative. The older I get, the grumpier I get around people who talk over others and don’t listen. Having a son who stutters definitely raised my sensitivity to this. Not that I’m never guilty!!
Hi Dori
Sorry for the late reply, as I’ve been away.
Yes, age makes one less patient over people who don’t get it, but also less bothered. As I now know my worth. I’ve done things people told me I couldn’t. I’ve been headhunted and handpicked for several jobs. I’ve travelled thanks to my stutter. I know that I can’t, and no longer want to be perfect, and that that’s good enough. I hope your son makes other people listen. You, as his mother, surely do. 😉
Keep them talking
Anita
Anita, ‘good enough’…….. I am so glad I listened to you!
Hi Nic
Aren’t these two words priceless? 🙂 Good. Enough.
Perfect people (or those who think they are) are a pain in the behind. So why even want that? 😉
When I spoke in schools I sometimes spoke to pre-schoolers and asked them “What are you good at?”. Many hands. Many replies. Lego. Football. Helping mom/dad. I tell them I’m good at playing the saxophone. I also ask the teacher to answer. Then I asked them what they were not as good at. Slowly some hands were raised. Cleaning my room. Running. The teacher also replies. And I tell them I’m not so good as replying in a fast way. Isn’t it wonderful to see that we all are good at something, and all not so good at something, so that we can help and support each other, and be good friends? I tell them i can help them with maths, and they can help me to speak more easily simply by listening. They all get that! And realize not being perfect at everything is OK, even as adults, as you can ask for help, and help others where they are not good as you. It can even create new friendships. I only wish adults would understand that too. ,-)
Keep (them) talking
Anita
Anita, I agree that people who do not stutter need more education on what to do/say when a person who stutters is having a moment of stuttering. I remember when my son was young and reached the age where most children start stuttering.. I to said “slow down, take your time” because it just seemed like the right thing to say at the time. Now going to school for speech-pathology, I am learning that we want to not say that to children. Always keeping an open mind and always willing to learn from someone else is key!
I’m so happy you learned more about stuttering and your change of thoughts shows how great of an SLP you will be.
If the world would understand stuttering, we wouldn’t feel shame and would speak more freely, instead of trying to hide our stutter. Saying “slow down” to a PWS is like saying “get up” to a person in a wheelchair. If it only were that easy. And “take your time” is nice, showing you have time to wait, but still pointing out that I’m taking up one’s time.
A friend of mine also came with comments and advice, well-meant, but it silenced me. He asked what he should do instead and my reply was “just listen”. 🙂
Keep them talking
Anita
Anita,
I always love your contributions to the ISAD conference. You are wise, insightful and always, always willing to share to help others who are not as far along on their journey as you are.
You are a gift to the global stuttering community. Everyone knows that – I hope you do too.
Pam
Dear Pam. Thanks for your wonderful comments. We’ve both been on a rough journey, came out of it alive, and are now paying it forward. I hope we can inspire others to find their path towards freedom of speech, which in our case might mean something different, but just as important.
Happy ISAD and keep talking
Anita
Oh Anita I have read this 3 days in a row, thankyou for being the wise encouraging person, that you are to so many. And thankyou for all the support you give,You gave helped me so much ,
Thank you, dear Phyllis. I’m so happy our paths have crossed in person and to see you’re paying it forward. The people in your life, of all ages, are so blessed to have you, including myself.
Happy ISAD and keep talking
Anita
Anita, I love how you ended this essay. ”Sure I stutter. What are you good at.”. Your essay is so insightful! As a graduate student in Speech Language Pathology, I am thankful for your wisdom. The work you are doing is so important! People who have actually walked the walk of living with stuttering have so much to offer others who stutter (which you already know!). What is your best piece of advice you give to speech pathologists who work with young children who stutter?
Thank you for being you!
Thank you for your kind reply and your thoughtful question.
Yes, my quote has gone viral. 🙂 I wrote it when I came out of the dark corner, found my voice and my self-worth. I’ve been told what to not do, how to not speak, I’ve been bullied and mimicked, put down, treated in a condecending way, and I finally realized I can speak and I have something to say. And you can mimick me all you want, and tell me what to do and not do, but I’m the expert of my own stuttering, and darn good at that. 😉
About your question on advice, there are some things I wish SLPs would do.
1. Listen and ask questions. Don’t just listen to the stuttered syllables, but listen to the story. The background. The goals. The culture, religion, anything that makes the person the way s/he is. As stuttering is so much more than what comes out of the mouth. Also listen to the parents and maybe even a friend, a partner. If a PWS doesn’t feel heard or safe, s/he will not give you the information you need.
2. Think out of the book, or box. One size does NOT fit all. One client (or the parent) might want to be fluent. Tell them fluency might not be for all. That climbing the Mount Everest is too hard for most people. So to set up reachable goals. Maybe tools to get out of a block. Maybe working on acceptance and self-worth. Maybe by giving them the knowledge to learn more about stuttering and explain to others. Maybe by suggesting something else but speech therapy. F ex presentation techniques, yoga, a choir. Or all of the above!
By listening, asking questions and providing a smörgåsbord of things to try, TOGETHER you might find something that fits that very client to reach acchievable goals.
3. Show the way to meet others who stutter, like camps, meetings, chat groups (check out Penny’s paper on playing video games with other kids who stutter). But also group therapy to proof they are not alone and can support each other. Let him/meet other adults who stutter. Bring a friend into the therapy room and let them do homework together. But… add fun!! When it’s fun, it’s more likely to continue, and to open up. And when giving assignments, do them yourself too. Don’t give assignments you’re not willing to do. Also offer help to speak to the classroom, you or your client, or maybe someone from a local support group. To talk to the class and/or the teachers (but decide that together).
4. Show them how amazing they are. Stuttering is one thing they happen to do that’s not their fault. It’s not fun, nor bad. It just is. But there’s so much more! So many things they are good at. So many things they can focus on. Stuttering might be a frustrating thing, but it’s not the end of the world. So, besides giving tools to speak with less effort (note, fluency is something different, and only if the child itself is interested, not the parent), also give tools to feel good about themselves. To see their whole self, with their own strength, skills and personality. Give them tools to explain what stuttering is. Give them tools to face bullies “You can mimick me, but you’ll never be as good as me at stuttering”, buttons, shirts, etc. Speak to the child’s caregivers, teachers and others surround it. We’re good enough. We are not our stutter. The only thing is that we need more time to talk. When I spoke in schools, I made stuttering a cool thing. We have fun camps. I get presents and cake on the ISAD, as that’s my day, a day noone else has. I have travelled the world going to stutter events and some even paid me to get there! 😉 All the kids got to try a DAF, to make them understand how confusing it is to hear yourself in another way then your mind goes, and they found that hilariou and gave them a better understanding. And the CWS? S/he was the hero of the day and we got to write autographs!
I recently was at a weekend where a group of PWS who stutter practice public speaking together. With the funniest assignments, that made us ROFL! Don’t just be the therapist. Be the friend. 🙂
Keep them talking
Anita
Anita, your passage offers such profound insights into the societal perception of stuttering and the deep-rooted biases that shape how people react to different forms of communication. You highlight the contrast between the way society celebrates individuals with visible physical disabilities for overcoming challenges, while people who stutter are often told to correct or conceal their speech. What can people do to help celebrate people who stutter and their speech?
What a great comment and question, Avarie! Thank you for that.
The no 1 thing I’d wish for people to do is to simply listen. Not to how I speak, but to what I’m saying. No “help”, no “advice”, not commenting on my speech, not even when it’s more fluent than other days, but just listen. If you wonder about stuttering or my speech, ask me. Help me to get the elephant out of the room. See me for who I am and acknowledge my skills. I’m so much more than my stutter. Some days I might not see that, and might think I failed, simply because I stutter, so help me to see the whole me. Share information on stuttering and the ISAD, just as the whole world this months focuses on cancer. No, I’m not comparing, but how wonderful it would be to get stuttering out of the shade, have concerts to raise money for research, highlight succesful people who stutter (not only those who used to stutter), wear that seagreen ribbon, leave material in schools, organise a fun, treatment-free camp for kids who stutter, organise a talking group for parents to children who stutter and invite a succesful PWS to show them life isn’t over when you stutter, organise an event on the international disability day 3 Dec, where also stuttering is included. To have your attention, your support and your understanding is the best present you can give us.
Keep them talking
Anita
Anita, thank you for sharing such a powerful insight into the world of stuttering and how biases can shape a person’s perception. I love how you brought up communication as a two-way street. I think that is such a powerful statement, and I agree wholeheartedly with it. What advice can you offer a graduate speech pathologist student who may someday work with children who stutter?
Thank you for your wonderful comments, Kyla. Listening is the key to understanding and communication. And asking, instead of assuming and advising. We’re all experts on ourselves, so let’s start communicating to get the elephant out of the room, so that we can focus on what really matters. 🙂
My quote I ended with has gone viral! I wrote it when I came out of the dark corner, found my voice and my self-worth. I’ve been told what to not do, how to not speak, I’ve been bullied and mimicked, put down, treated in a condecending way, and I finally realized I can speak and I have something to say. And you can mimick me all you want, and tell me what to do and not do, but I’m the expert of my own stuttering, and darn good at that. 😉
About your question on advice, there are some things I wish SLPs would do.
1. Listen and ask questions. Don’t just listen to the stuttered syllables, but listen to the story. The background. The goals. The culture, religion, anything that makes the person the way s/he is. As stuttering is so much more than what comes out of the mouth. Also listen to the parents and maybe even a friend, a partner. If a PWS doesn’t feel heard or safe, s/he will not give you the information you need.
2. Think out of the book, or box. One size does NOT fit all. One client (or the parent) might want to be fluent. Tell them fluency might not be for all. That climbing the Mount Everest is too hard for most people. So to set up reachable goals. Maybe tools to get out of a block. Maybe working on acceptance and self-worth. Maybe by giving them the knowledge to learn more about stuttering and explain to others. Maybe by suggesting something else but speech therapy. F ex presentation techniques, yoga, a choir. Or all of the above!
By listening, asking questions and providing a smörgåsbord of things to try, TOGETHER you might find something that fits that very client to reach acchievable goals.
3. Show the way to meet others who stutter, like camps, meetings, chat groups (check out Penny’s paper on playing video games with other kids who stutter). But also group therapy to proof they are not alone and can support each other. Let him/meet other adults who stutter. Bring a friend into the therapy room and let them do homework together. But… add fun!! When it’s fun, it’s more likely to continue, and to open up. And when giving assignments, do them yourself too. Don’t give assignments you’re not willing to do. Also offer help to speak to the classroom, you or your client, or maybe someone from a local support group. To talk to the class and/or the teachers (but decide that together).
4. Show them how amazing they are. Stuttering is one thing they happen to do that’s not their fault. It’s not fun, nor bad. It just is. But there’s so much more! So many things they are good at. So many things they can focus on. Stuttering might be a frustrating thing, but it’s not the end of the world. So, besides giving tools to speak with less effort (note, fluency is something different, and only if the child itself is interested, not the parent), also give tools to feel good about themselves. To see their whole self, with their own strength, skills and personality. Give them tools to explain what stuttering is. Give them tools to face bullies “You can mimick me, but you’ll never be as good as me at stuttering”, buttons, shirts, etc. Speak to the child’s caregivers, teachers and others surround it. We’re good enough. We are not our stutter. The only thing is that we need more time to talk. When I spoke in schools, I made stuttering a cool thing. We have fun camps. I get presents and cake on the ISAD, as that’s my day, a day noone else has. I have travelled the world going to stutter events and some even paid me to get there! 😉 All the kids got to try a DAF, to make them understand how confusing it is to hear yourself in another way then your mind goes, and they found that hilariou and gave them a better understanding. And the CWS? S/he was the hero of the day and we got to write autographs!
I recently was at a weekend where a group of PWS who stutter practice public speaking together. With the funniest assignments, that made us ROFL! Don’t just be the therapist. Be the friend. 🙂
Keep them talking
Anita
Hi Anita,
I am an SLP graduate student and my fluency class brought me to your post. My class has allowed a small glimpse into the life of a PWS, and I appreciate your post for reiterating the incredibly valuable things I am learning. “We’re not demanding adjustments. We’re demanding respect.” What a powerful statement! Thank you for your insight into a world I have only recently been introduced into. It definitely gives me pause as to how I will approach a PWS in the future.
-Lacey Garfield
Thank you Lacey for your thoughtful comment. And for you being here. As the best way to learn about stuttering, the life of a PWS, and even tips on treatment, you can find right here. And from your clients. As they are the experts on their stutter, and can give you a lot of clues.
When you mention “fluency class” I sighed. As stuttering treatment is so much more than to get a client fluent. Which you can’t. However, there are a lot of things you CAN do.
Listen and ask questions. Don’t just listen to the stuttered syllables, but listen to the story. The background. The goals. The culture, religion, anything that makes the person the way s/he is. As stuttering is so much more than what comes out of the mouth. Also listen to the parents and maybe even a friend, a partner. If a PWS doesn’t feel heard or safe, s/he will not give you the information you need.
Think out of the book, or box. One size does NOT fit all. One client (or the parent) might want to be fluent. Tell them fluency might not be for all. That climbing the Mount Everest is too hard for most people. So to set up reachable goals. Maybe tools to get out of a block. Maybe working on acceptance and self-worth. Maybe by giving them the knowledge to learn more about stuttering and explain to others. Maybe by suggesting something else but speech therapy. F ex presentation techniques, yoga, a choir. Or all of the above! By listening, asking questions and providing a smörgåsbord of things to try, TOGETHER you might find something that fits that very client to reach acchievable goals.
Show the way to meet others who stutter, like camps, meetings, chat groups (check out Penny’s paper on playing video games with other kids who stutter). But also group therapy to proof they are not alone and can support each other. Let him/meet other adults who stutter. Bring a friend into the therapy room and let them do homework together. But… add fun!! When it’s fun, it’s more likely to continue, and to open up. And when giving assignments, do them yourself too. Don’t give assignments you’re not willing to do. Also offer help to speak to the classroom, you or your client, or maybe someone from a local support group. To talk to the class and/or the teachers (but decide that together).
Show them how amazing they are. Stuttering is one thing they happen to do that’s not their fault. It’s not fun, nor bad. It just is. But there’s so much more! So many things they are good at. So many things they can focus on. Stuttering might be a frustrating thing, but it’s not the end of the world. So, besides giving tools to speak with less effort (note, fluency is something different, and only if the child itself is interested, not the parent), also give tools to feel good about themselves. To see their whole self, with their own strength, skills and personality. Give them tools to explain what stuttering is. Give them tools to face bullies “You can mimick me, but you’ll never be as good as me at stuttering”, buttons, shirts, etc. Speak to the child’s caregivers, teachers and others surround it. We’re good enough. We are not our stutter. The only thing is that we need more time to talk. When I spoke in schools, I made stuttering a cool thing. We have fun camps. I get presents and cake on the ISAD, as that’s my day, a day noone else has. I have travelled the world going to stutter events and some even paid me to get there! 😉 All the kids got to try a DAF, to make them understand how confusing it is to hear yourself in another way then your mind goes, and they found that hilariou and gave them a better understanding. And the CWS? S/he was the hero of the day and we got to write autographs!
I recently was at a weekend where a group of PWS who stutter practice public speaking together. With the funniest assignments, that made us ROFL! Don’t just be the therapist. So skip the fluency goals and be the supportive friend. 🙂
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Anita
Hi Anita, Thank you for article. I appreciated the analogy you made between the paralympic athlete and a person who stutters, that we all have a right to have our special needs recognized and met. Yet with the variations with our speech, each person who stutters has the privilege and right to deal with their stutter as they choose.
Thank you for visiting and commenting to my paper, Jeff. You’re absolutely right. It’s the right for every individual PWS to deal with stuttering as they choose. And this is why listening is so important. Not assuming, not guessing, not commenting. But asking, and really listening to the answer. What does s/he want and need, and how can I be a supportive listener/parent/friend/SLP/teacher/employer. We do so with most people in our lives. But when it comes to stuttering, people startle, are afraid to ask questions, and want to “help” by using the assumptions they had about stuttering.
I have a friend who stutters and who wants others to fill in words, while most don’t. Some people stutter a lot on the phone, others work as phone salespersons, as they are fluent on the phone. My paper is how I see things, while others might see things in a totally different way. So the way to find out is to stop assuming and start asking. And the way to brake through the shame and the shenanigans is for us to talk. As yes, we’re all different and carry with us different luggage, experiences, cultures, religions, etc. We’re all experts on our own stuttering, so let’s talk and share our expertice. 😉
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Hi Anita,
I am also an SLP graduate student. I want to thank you for sharing such a powerful and insightful reflection on what it is like to be a person who stutters. As a future speech therapist, I really loved your ideas about a shift in focus from “fixing” speech to celebrating the courage it takes to speak, regardless of fluency. Your perspective has inspired me to prioritize acceptance and empowerment in my future practice.
-Tori S.
Your comment made my day, Tori! I believe acceptance is the safety net we all need, so that, when/if someone wants to work on their speech, they always have this safety net even during and after therapy. And for those who are happy the way they are, kudos! Show the world stuttering is just as normal as people with other challenges. May acceptance be the turkey on the Thanksgiving dinner. 😉
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Anita
Anita,
I loved your statement, “Listening might be the key to stuttering becoming the new normal. When we know people listen, without judgement, we might start to speak freely, saying what we want to say, in a way that is OK for ourselves to speak.” Simply listening and displaying unwavering attention is essential and goes a long way. I am a speech-language pathologist graduate student, and your insight is beneficial. Communication is indeed a two-way street; as listeners, it is critical to be educated on what to do and say when speaking with individuals who stutter. Is there anything that listeners can do to help individuals who stutter feel more comfortable when speaking?
Spot on, Malacia! It’s hard to listen, for everybody, including myself ;-), as we’re so busy with our own thoughts. But to at least listen without judgement is a great learning experience that will benifit all. Not in the least for people who work with children and adults. And not all things being said are the things we really want to communicate. So not just listen to the words being said, but also to what’s between the lines and to what’s not being said. And as we need more time to talk, our listeners have more time to listen. 😉
Some listeners want to help, but are not always helpful. Filling in and finishing words: a few PWS I’ve met would like that, but most don’t. As we can speak and know what to say. It takes time, courage and energy to get the words out, so at least give us the courtasy to say them. If you don’t know whether to fill in or not: ask.
Refrain from advice, unless asked for. We already know we need to breath. We already know it’s better to calm down. We also know there are quick-fixes that promise “the cure”, and we also know they are not working in the long run. Therapy takes time. And you telling me about “this great course” is making me aware that you want me to stop stuttering, which makes me wonder: for who’s sake? If you want to help, ask if I want help. Ask me about therapy I’ve tried and know of, before offering. I might not even be interested in therapy. I might simply want therapy for my listener. 😉
I might look away in a block, but that doesn’t mean you should do the same. Looking away can be seen as not interested. Staring however is not helpful either. 😉 And stop the impulse to look at your watch. If you don’t have time: tell me.
As we often listen more than we speak, and are often unsure about the listener’s thoughts and reactions, we watch (and interpret…) body language. If you have a question: ask. Are you nervous and don’t know what to do or say: let me know. Let’s together get the elephant out of the room.
If the surrounding is loud, stuttering can increase. Is there a way to have more silene around us? Can I sit in the first row of the class, so that I don’t have to speak that loud with other students turning their heads? Can I record my presentation in advance? Can I have a friend in the therapy room, doing the exercises together?
So in short: communicate. Ask. Listen. There are things we rather not talk about. Don’t let stuttering be one of them. Call it by its name: stuttering, to decharge the word. Let’s together make stuttering normal.
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Anita
Hi Anita! I’m Celine, a graduate student studying speech pathology. I really appreciate your perspective and insight regarding stuttering and what it is like to live with stuttering daily. The way you ended your article was extremely powerful and provided great words to individuals that often interact with PWS or even to people who may stutter themselves. What further advice would you give to someone who stutters that is still struggling with confidence or self-value? Thank you in advance!
Hi Celine. Thanks for your kind comments and your important question.
It took me many years to gain acceptance, confidence and self-value. As I was told for many years I wasn’t good enough. If I only would stop stuttering. To be told I’m not worthy to speak, to be bullied almost to death, to be told there was no use studying, as I wouldn’t get a job anyway. Even from SLPs. After years of hearing this, from all corners, you start believing it. And years to again start believing people who say nice things about you. It takes a village to raise a child. It takes a stuttering community (incl allies) to help rise a PWS.
I clearly remember every tough, demeaning moment, every word, every situation. But I also remember the first time my boss said I was doing a great job. My first boyfriend saying he liked me for who I am. My first local meeting with other PWS. My first national stuttering event, meeting people my age, telling jokes. My first international stuttering event, with people stuttering in all languages, having all kinds of careers. The first SLP crying for joy when her client spoke at the open mic. The first time raising stuttering awareness in school and giving my first autograph afterwards. My first speech to the European Committee. My many stutter camps where I could give back. My Mindfulness courses, NLP, Speaking Circles… The list of things that made me grow is long.
So my first advice is to get in contact with other people who stutter. Whether that’s a camp or a meeting, a social dinner or listening to an inspiring speaker. Being with other PWS is your safety zone, where you can learn you ARE good enough. You will be cheered on, you will be encouraged to expend your comfort zone, you will be accepted just the way you are, and you will be accompanied on your journey, whether that is with or without therapy.
Also accompany yourself with the right allies. There are people who have high expectations and who will judge you, and there will be people who will tempt you to try things, lift you up when you’re down, and share worries and joys. These can be friends, family, your teacher or your SLP.
And try to find the things you’re good at. Make a list and write them down. When you can’t come up with more, ask others. And keep it active. Put it in your phone, the mirror or on the bathroom door, so you can see it and add to it, every day. You can also do like me, who, after many years still needs to see this every day: get a tattoo on your arm saying “Good enough”. As people who (think they) are perfect are a pain in the behind and nothing to strive for. And why do we accept others who are not perfect, but when it comes to ourselves, we are all but our own best friend?
All this is what others taught me and I’m so happy I today can pay it forward. I’ve hosted many stutter camps and given many presentations, all on voluntary basis. So if I can be of any assistance and speak where you are, let me know. 🙂
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Anita
Hi Anita,
thank you for sharing your article with us. The words you wrote are very important for everybody. We have to be able to listen to the other side in a conversation, no matter how long it takes and we have to remeber that more important is what people say, not how. It seems to be obviosus, but when we touch something diffrent from us, we can easily forget about this. And then it turns out that listennig is not so easy.
You moved us with words that when you talk with somebody you find that this person is worth your effort. It shows the respect you give and moreover, you remind that whe should give respect each other regardless of differences.
Thank you for your aritcile, which was definitelly was worth reading!
Speech therapy students from the University of Silesia
Zuzanna, Karolina, Wioletta
Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful reply, Wioletta. Listening is hard, not in the least for PWS, as we’re often preparing our words already while others still are speaking, so we know it’s hard. But yes, as it takes effort and guts to speak when stuttering, we’re so happy when our listener really makes the effort to listen. And also to ask questions to help us get the elephant out of the room. As many think they know stuttering, but are still stuck in tales from the past. And listening is also positive for the listener, as when the speaking situation is easier, the stutter gets less. Win-win. 😉
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Anita
Hello Anita! I’m Savannah, a graduate student studying speech-language pathology. I enjoyed reading your first-hand experiences and powerful insights about living with stuttering. I found your comparison between society’s celebration of Paralympic athletes and the stigma faced by people who stutter particularly eye-opening. Your perspective on how we applaud physical adaptations while often trying to “fix” or hide stuttering really challenged my thinking about disability rights and acceptance.
As a future SLP, your insights about the impact of being told stuttering is “wrong” and the importance of patient-chosen goals are invaluable. Your emphasis on shifting focus from “fixing” to empowering, and your description of daily conversations as personal Paralympics, will definitely influence my approach to therapy. I especially appreciated your point about the critical role of active listening – not just hearing how someone speaks, but truly listening to what they’re saying. Your experiences teaching children and parents at camps, and your journey from facing bullying to becoming a public speaker and teacher, demonstrate the profound impact of acceptance and support.
Thank you for being so open about your experiences and advocating for change. Your message about the importance of respect over “adjustments,” and the need to celebrate communication efforts rather than just fluency, will help future clinicians like myself develop more empathetic and effective approaches to supporting people who stutter. Your story reminds us that our role isn’t to eliminate stuttering, but to support individuals in finding their own voice and speaking with pride.
What a thoughtful and amazing reply, Savannah! This shows what an amazing SLP you’ll be and I hope stuttering will be your specialization, as we need more allies who GET it. We’re a challenging group, but joining us on our path will enrich us both. Do read Manon’s paper, an SLP who gets it.
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Anita
Hi Anita,
I cannot really say how inspirational this was. I can clearly see that you have accumulated a wide knowledge about stuttering, I wish one day I had the same wisdom about stuttering that you have.
Your tip about taking a break while speak resonated with me. Most influential speakers do take breaks, because speech can only be appreciated hand in hand with silence as something can only be appreciated together with its absence. And, furthermore, less is sometimes more.
Keep talkin’,
Bercel
Thanks Bercel. Taking space in a conversation, an let it take the time it takes, including taking brakes, gives both yourself and your listener time to reflect, as in Speaking Circles. Good communicating is not just 1 first and 1 second, but a constant give and take. So if speaking partners complain, maybe they should reflect on their own communication skills. 😉
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Anita
Hi Anita!
I am a graduate student studying speech-language pathology. I enjoyed reading your insights and providing valuable information about how you live with stuttering. I appreciated your comparison of the Paralympic athlete and how they are not encouraged to change, but rather embraced and celebrated for their achievements and accomplishments, and how people who stutter are immediately told to change and very rarely celebrated.
I work in a school system and see often the accomodations, “adjustments”, and changes that we (as a system) make for children, but your point about not celebrating the communication efforts and the role we play as a communication partner was impactful. When we make the speaking situation easier and more inviting, we help the stutter get less, and we also, as the communication partner, get to listen. Your line about “listening might be the key to stuttering becoming the new normal,” was insightful for future practice. Thank you!
Hi therancherswife
I’m so happy you get my point that stuttering should be seen as any other disability. Even better: if society would be more understanding, respectful and help with the few needs we have, stuttering might not even have to be disability at all.
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Anita
Hi Anita, thank you for sharing!
I’m a current SLP graduate student enrolled in Fluency Disorder. I appreciated the information you provided discussing the obstacles, insights, and achievements surrounding people who stutter. I enjoyed reading the parallels between Paralympic athletes and PWS. These athletes are not conditioned or asked to change, they are positively supported for their differences. Society must alter their mentality becoming more understanding of communication differences.
Thank you!
Hi Rachel
I’m so happy you get my point that stuttering is no different from other disabilities and just need acceptance also from society. Even better: if society would be more understanding, respectful and help with the few needs we have, stuttering might not even have to be disability at all.
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Anita
Hi Anita!
I appreciate your positive perspective on stuttering. As you discussed in your paper, people who stutter tend to view it as a negative because it is how they have been told to see it. I especially liked your comparison to the paralympic athlete and people who stutter. People experiences various difficulties everyday, but a communication difficulty can be very challenging especially when you are constantly ridiculed for a disability that isn’t seen as readily as a physical one.
As an introvert I related to the statement of “talking in front of people is fear no 1, and yet most of us do it, while many fluent people don’t.” It takes real courage to speak in front of people that you feel won’t take you seriously or won’t care enough to pay attention to what you actually have to convey or have made previous negative comments about the way that you talk. It takes a really strong person to take a negative experience and find all of the positives throughout it. Your view on listening being the solution to stuttering not being a disability at all is really powerful as well as in today’s society we often get consumed in our own mind and what we think and what we want to say and as a result ignore all of the other information and points of view we could be learning valuable information from. Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you for you great comments, Jjennings. Yes, many people have fear of speaking in public, and many try to avoid it. Now imagine that, for many PWS, any conversation is like public speaking, and you see the greatness in PWS who feel the fear and do it anyway! That’s why, instead of looking down on people who struggle with different issues, look up and see their courage and strength.
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Anita
Hi Anita,
I really enjoyed reading this post. I also like how you ended it with ”Sure I stutter. What are you good at.”. That was very powerful. Reading your words was very encouraging to me as a graduate clinician. What is some advice you would give to graduate students who work with children who stutter?
Hej Leah
Thank you for your comments. My quote has gone viral! F ex have a look at StutteringIsCool, who’s using it on all its marketing. 🙂
There are some things I wish SLPs would do.
1. Listen and ask questions. Don’t just listen to the stuttered syllables, but listen to the story. The background. The goals. The culture, religion, anything that makes the person the way s/he is. As stuttering is so much more than what comes out of the mouth. Also listen to the parents and maybe even a friend, a partner. If a PWS doesn’t feel heard or safe, s/he will not give you the information you need.
2. Think out of the book, or box. One size does NOT fit all. One client (or the parent) might want to be fluent. Tell them fluency might not be for all. That climbing the Mount Everest is too hard for most people. So to set up reachable goals. Maybe tools to get out of a block. Maybe working on acceptance and self-worth. Maybe by giving them the knowledge to learn more about stuttering and explain to others. Maybe by suggesting something else but speech therapy. F ex presentation techniques, yoga, a choir. Or all of the above!
By listening, asking questions and providing a smörgåsbord of things to try, TOGETHER you might find something that fits that very client to reach acchievable goals.
3. Show the way to meet others who stutter, like camps, meetings, chat groups (check out Penny’s paper on playing video games with other kids who stutter). But also group therapy to proof they are not alone and can support each other. Let him/meet other adults who stutter. Bring a friend into the therapy room and let them do homework together. But… add fun!! When it’s fun, it’s more likely to continue, and to open up. And when giving assignments, do them yourself too. Don’t give assignments you’re not willing to do. Also offer help to speak to the classroom, you or your client, or maybe someone from a local support group. To talk to the class and/or the teachers (but decide that together).
4. Try to get the PWS to advertise. As people often don’t know how to react, which can result in all from “helping” the wrong way, to bullying. Being the first one to talk about stuttering can get the elephant out of the room, maybe even before he enters. Buttons, t-shirts, a presentation in school (perferably with a confident person who (audibly) stutters. Use the ISAD at being a cool day, only for CWS, where we can get ice cream, go to the cinema, etc. I’ve had kids asking for my autograph and fighting to sit next to me, now boing the cool one. 😉
I recently was at a weekend where a group of PWS who stutter practice public speaking together. With the funniest assignments, that made us ROFL! I had a social studies teacher in school who literally jumped on the table to make a point. Don’t just be the therapist. Be the friend. 🙂
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Anita
Thank you all for your wonderful comments and your engaging questions. If you’re interested, you can read my replies to all others who commented. I also wrote papers for previous ISAD online conferences that might be of interest, including my replies to questions. Don’t hesitate to reach out also after the conference at scatsis@gmail.com. And remember, keep (them) talking! 🙂