Hanan HurwitzAbout the Author:

Hanan Hurwitz is an electronics engineer by training, and currently self-employed as a Quality and Regulatory Management Consultant. He is also a person who stutters, and former Chair and Executive Director of AMBI, the Israeli Stuttering Association.

Hanan lectures extensively on stuttering. His volunteering activity these days is with an association that runs projects designed to close equity gaps in Israeli society. His primary interests – at present – are Buddhist and Stoic philosophy, Blues music, and reading.

Abstract

“We have the power to hold no opinion about a thing,” Marcus Aurelius wrote, “and to not let it upset our state of mind—for things have no natural power to shape our judgments.” – Ryan Holiday, quoting Marcus Auerlius

With this in mind, I am nevertheless mindfully choosing to express my opinion about this year’s ISAD theme. Even if I feel strongly about my opinion, and even if I come across strongly, I know that what I write are only my opinions.

It is proposed in this ISAD conference that “One Size Does NOT Fit All” when it comes to therapy for stuttering, meaning that “a single solution or approach is not suitable for everyone, as different people have different needs and circumstances.”.

Indeed, over the past few years there seems to have been more discussion on and emphasis about “client-centered” therapy, that is therapy that is geared towards the needs and wants of each person. When introducing different types of therapies offered at the Michael Palin Center, they write that “Therapy can focus on communication skills, speech skills, psychological or skills or a combination of these, depending on what you are interested in.”. In my opinion client-centered therapy is always necessary, in any therapeutic context.

However, the claim that “one size does not fit all” needs to be qualified. We have a responsibility to identify therapeutic approaches – and practitioners – that are potentially harmful.

Is Therapy Necessary?

I think that is firstly necessary to consider that one option in “one size does not fit all” is No Therapy. Sometimes, perhaps too often, we are subject to the part of the stigma of stuttering that implies that therapy is necessary. We always need to ask “Why is therapy desired or necessary?”. Just the fact of stuttering does not make therapy necessary, and this attitude can take us a long way towards disassociating ourselves from the stigma of stuttering and the perceived opinions and judgements about others about our stuttering. In my many talks to teachers, to speech therapists and to parents of children who stutter, I have attempted to convey the message that if stuttering is not impeding the person from living their life they way that they want to, then therapy is both unnecessary and potentially harmful. It’s amazing to see how the folks in the audience get this message, and how it frees them from the belief that therapy is inherently necessary for a person who stutters.

The Potential for Harm in Fluency Shaping Therapy

“Successful suppression of stuttering is what maintains and perpetuates the problem.” – Joseph Sheehan

I have been thinking about this for a long time, and thankfully I am able of late to just come out and say it: In my opinion, Fluency Shaping Therapy is one of those approaches that are potentially harmful. It seems that in many parts of the world this remains the main therapeutic approach, and, in my opinion only, it is past time to say Stop: This approach has the potential to cause more harm than good. Moreover, the approach should be banned as it is abusive. It is most abusive when the therapist sends the conflicting message of “it’s ok to stutter, but try to use your tools”, when those tools are fluency-shaping methods.

Fluency-shaping, easy onset, whatever they call it perpetuates the stigma of stuttering by prioritizing fluency over communication and placing value on fluency over a multitude of things that we can choose as our true values. Fluency-shaping perpetuates self-stigma in the forms of shame, anxiety, guilt and fear, which can all arise as a direct result of this therapy.

  • Fear: In the moment of speaking, I feel fear that I will not be able to use the tools, as well as feeling fear of stuttering itself and fear of the response of The Other to my stuttering and to my fluency-shaped speech that sounds weird to me. Fear results in our natural mechanisms of self-preservation to kick in, and our cognitive brain takes a back seat while we “fight, flight or freeze” as we face this threat. The cognitive brain is the part that we need in order to do the fluency shaping. And so, we are stuck. And, possibly, this causes us to block more than we would have done otherwise.
  • Anxiety: In anticipation of speaking, we are anxious as to whether we will be able to use the tools
  • Guilt: Since we will stutter sooner or later unless we choose not to speak, we then feel guilty about stuttering. After all, we or our parents paid significant sums of money for a treatment meant to cure/suppress/hide our stuttering and yet we still stutter.
  • Shame: While guilt means that I feel bad about doing something, shame means that “I am bad”. Many people who stutter know this feeling. Shame is an intense and destructive emotion. It guides our life and our decisions. It grows since we might be ashamed to speak about our shame.

When these feelings and emotions arise, they can make us withdraw from life.

Fluency shaping can also be exhausting. For me personally: after my three-week intensive fluency-shaping course, I soon became exhausted from the effort of consciously controlling my speech, and from the effort of having to both think about what I was saying and about how I was saying it, while all the time fearing that I would stutter. I soon chose to speak less.

One of the traps that I bought into for a while was that fluency shaping is valuable in showing the person who stutters who states that they cannot speak that they can, in fact, speak. So why is that statement wrong (in my opinion)? Well, it’s because many people who stutter are so (understandably) desperate for a cure that we latch onto anything that gives us hope. Once we have experienced speaking with an easy onset, it is really hard to give it up. And so we are trapped in the fluency focussed treatment model with all its pitfalls.

Identifying the Real Problem (if there even is one)

“The problem is not the problem; the problem is your attitude about the problem.” – Captain Jack Sparrow

Before engaging in any therapy, we need to be able to identify for ourselves what the problem is for which we want resolution, and what that resolution, or outcome, looks like.

In society in general there are many imaginary problems that, when we believe them, cause untold suffering. Stuttering is one of those imaginary problems. “Not True”, you might say, “I stutter and I cannot get a word out and it’s killing me.”. I understand. Truly. However, the problem is not the stuttering. The problem is (a) our attitude towards stuttering and (b) the struggle that we have with and against my stuttering.  I am forever indebted to Vivian Sisskin for teaching me to differentiate between Stuttering and Struggle. Accept the Stuttering, she teaches, but not the Struggle.

I have learned that I suffered, and sometimes still suffer, due to my attitude towards stuttering (including deep-seated shame that I am still working on understanding) and the struggle behaviour that I added to my stuttering. The most difficult lesson for me to learn in my Journey with stuttering was that a lot of my stuttering was due to behaviours that I added to the native stuttering.

The fluency shaping therapy that I went through reinforced my belief that my stuttering was a problem, it created additional struggle behaviour, and my speech was more difficult for me than before. So, after this therapy I was still struggling to control and conceal my stuttering. I cannot emphasise enough how abusive this treatment was. I used to think that I was the only one who “failed” fluency shaping therapy, but then I met more folks like me. Many more.

On the other hand, my journey to learn about and accept stuttering has been liberating, full of meaning that I never had before, and, frankly, life-saving. A few of us who attended that fluency shaping course (not at the same time, but the same course) refer to ourselves as “survivors” of that therapy. We are traumatized, we are angry, but we are also more fulfilled now that we have found a different way to live with our stutter. Survivors, no less.

Other Abusive Therapeutic Approaches

“… sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” – The Queen in Alice in Wonderland

There are other abusive treatment options that need to be spoken about. In Israel there is a person who claims that he will fix your stuttering by teaching you how to adopt a different persona. In fact, he says, he will teach you a number of personas and that you can choose at any time which one to adopt. Great. I will get up in the morning and decide which face to put on. I will live my life in complete unauthenticity while still fearing my stutter. Wonderful. While it still remains to find one person who has been helped by this approach, we see many who claim to have been victims of fraud.

And what about the folks that claim, without any evidence, that hyperbaric oxygen therapy will cure stuttering, or that hypnosis will cure it? Hyperbaric and hypnotic treatments have their place, but certainly not in the “curing” of stuttering.

Take a look at this clinical trial and decide for yourselves if this is abusive or not. Look at the Inclusive and the Exclusion criteria. In my opinion this trial is hyper-barbaric.

https://classic.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05291572

Conclusions

We must keep an open mind, but not so open that our brains fall out” – Walter Kotschnig and others.

“One Size Does Not Fit All” makes sense, but it is perhaps worth maintaining a critical attitude to therapy and to explicitly call out and oppose therapeutic practices that, even if they have been around for years, are abusive.

There are therapeutic practices that focus on helping us identify and let go of our struggle behaviours, on overcoming our self-limiting thoughts and beliefs, and on enabling us to find meaning and purpose and to pursue that purpose without letting our stuttering get in the way. There are life-enhancing therapies out there.

Sure, it’s challenging to live with stuttering. However, for better or worse it is what it is and we can find a way through it, and we should preferably do this within a framework of community support. People with a variety of physiological differences do so, and we people who stutter can do so, too. Freedom lies on the other side of that discovery.

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On Setting Boundaries to the “One Size Does Not Fit All” Philosophy – Hanan Hurwitz — 39 Comments

  1. Hanan,

    “Say what you really mean!”

    I love how direct and to the point you are about how you feel about fluency focused therapy that can and does harm and leaves clients, more than often than not, feeling like we’ve failed.
    There are so many, many stories of young adults and not so young adults who have internalized failure because of the short comings of traditional fluency shaping therapy.

    It’s important to speak up and have difficult conversations about the disconnect there often is between the “helpers” and the people who may “want help.” Nothing changes unless voices are heard about how there truly needs to be a shift in the role perhaps of traditionally trained SLPs. There still seems to be a chasm between “helping” and “fixing.”

    Interestingly the theme was not chosen just to stimulate discussion on therapy. There are many forms those “sizes” can take – stuttering support groups, mentoring, counseling, CBT, DBT, ACT, advocacy, education and awareness raising activities. Each of these I mentioned do not have just one size, or type, or purpose – but have many possibilities and outcomes.

    You are a leading voice in the community. I am glad you are willing to tackle controversial practices and/or thoughts.

    Did you have any doubts about bringing your opinion forward on this topic?

    Pam

  2. Hi Pam

    Thanks so much for adding your insights and experience. I love also that you specifically mention the various forms that “sizes” can take. I would like to see more awareness of these options. For me, awareness, education, advocacy, support groups and ACT (self-therapy) were helpful, whereas the fluency-shaping therapies I had were harmful. Completely harmful.

    Yes, I had doubts about expressing my opinion on this topics. My doubt comes from a few places: (1) Residual fear of speech therapists under whose care I was in the past; (2) Knowing that I certainly don’t know everything, I was wondering if I am missing some key point that would change my opinion.

    However, this is a topic that I obviously feel strongly about. I decided to get over my doubts, and hope that discussion would clarify the topic and help everyone, therapists and clients and parents.

    Thank you, Pam.

    • Well, you are spurring on great conversation. I love that we have this forum to do this, and that many speech therapy students are going to read this paper and the comments.

      Bravo for putting your doubts aside and sharing with us a controversial topic!

      Pam

  3. Hi Hunan,
    Nice to be able to communicate with you again. I believe the last time that we met was in Japan. The first thing I would like to ask you as a self-identified member of people who sometimes stutter is to think about how has stuttering effected your existence negatively that you might not have wanted in the past and that you, for sure would like to shed, if you could in the future.

    In other words, could you take a clean sheet of paper and answer hypothetically how could have (note I did not say “would have”, because it is a conjecture) or how do you think your life could have been different if you would not have stuttered. Can you summarize it and share it with me?

    Now take a moment to make a snapshot of your life: your emoting, your thinking, your acting, your observing, your job, your relationships. Surely some things about yourself you like and some you dislike. For the moment be very honest with me and tell me, if all things would be possible, what would you want to discard. Rate them in order and share some of them with me. Many people have told me that they would like to stop obsessing about stuttering, not have a feeling of inferiority, shame, loss of control in blocks, be hopeless about job opportunities, etc. What are your pet peeves about yourself…
    Gunars Neiders

  4. Hi Hanan, I don’t much like fluency shaping either. I followed a fluency shaping therapy just before teenage. I did not receive a choice of therapy type at that time, and I feel it would have been better if I had done. As an adult, I chose stuttering modification therapy, and this has worked well for me.

    That said, I have since spoken to people who stutter who have found fluency shaping was highly beneficial for them. They have described it as life-changing, and this is borne out by a change in personal attitude and affect, and a willingness to enter speaking situations which they would previously have avoided.

    You have recommended that fluency shaping should be banned. What would your response be to stutterers for whom fluency shaping is the preferred therapy?

    • Hi Max

      Thank you very much for your response and your thoughtful question.

      I am always pleased for people who stutter who have found that fluency shaping has helped them. I don’t question them. However, those people whom I have met who went through fluency shaping and state that it helped them exhibit avoidance behavior and still carry shame and fear about their stuttering.

      One person I know well, who supports fluency shaping and says that it changed his life, speaks without stuttering. However, his avoidance of stuttering results in his speech being quite difficult to understand. He changes words, and even ideas, mid-sentence and it is very difficult to understand what point he is making. I am not attacking or criticizing this person in any way. I feel pleased for him that he feels freer to speak, and I feel sadness since he is quite difficult to understand and since he himself expresses continued deep shame about this stuttering.

      Another person I met two years after he went to an intensive fluency shaping course. His life was on complete hold, and he was basically living in poverty. He said that his stuttering was preventing him from living. His wife would make all his calls for him. The sad thing is that (a) he was full of praise for his fluency shaping course, even though 2 years after finishing the course he felt that his stuttering was holding him back. And (b), his speech was entirely understandable. The fact of his stutter was unbearable to him. And again, he was full of praise for the fluency shaping course that promised him fluency, and failed him.

      I know a person who founded a fluency shaping app who one the one hand swore by the method and on the other hand had great difficulty with himself when he stuttered. Wonderful person, but trapped (at the time) by the promise of fluency.

      Another person went on a TV reality show. They followed him while he went through fluency treatment, and were ecstatic for him when, in the final show, he spoke fluently. His fluency broke down very soon after. Again: wonderful person, and I am not criticizing him at all. I have only empathy for him, and admiration for how he continued to create his life, stuttering and all.

      I know that these are only three examples and they do not represent everyone. However, with these examples and others, I see people exerting effort in order to not stutter, and still trapped by fear of stuttering. To me, this is sad.

      We who stutter do so since that is our physiology. Fluency shaping fails so many people with the false promise of fluency. Based on that alone it should be banned. However, since fluency shaping is based on an outdated view that stuttering is a defect, it has no place in our world today, given that it does so much harm.

      I believe that effective treatment could be offered instead of fluency shaping. All those folks who say that fluency shaping helped them could be equally helped by other treatment approaches. In fact, I am convinced that they would be helped even more since they would eliminate their fear and shame about stuttering and gain tools that enable them live their lives without having to practice fluency shaping for an hour a day every day for the rest of their lives.

      What is your opinion about what I wrote?

      Thank you
      Hanan

      • Hi Hanan,

        Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I do agree that fluency shaping can have undesirable outcomes, and as described I’ve experienced these myself. However, I think that the fundamental problem follows from fluency shaping being the wrong therapy choice for a person, and/or being delivered ineffectively, rather than something intrinsic to fluency shaping itself. Indeed, it might be that any type of stuttering therapy (including stuttering modification and stuttering affirmation therapies) can have detrimental consequences if they are delivered badly, or are presented as the only choice to someone who would have been better off with another therapy, or with doing nothing.

        My recommendation would be that PWS seeking therapy should have all options explained to them neutrally, with pros and cons of each therapy described. I’d also recommend that counselling should always precede speech work, and that there should be no pressure at all to do any speech work. And I’d like to see psychological therapies available for those who might benefit from them, including trauma therapies. For those choosing to do speech work after counselling or psychological therapy, the best choices we have available are still fluency shaping or stuttering modification, or perhaps some combined version thereof.

        Presenting therapy options in the manner described would be reminiscent of what is available for other impairments. For example, consider visual impairment. This can often be treated by corrective lenses or by eye surgery. Type of lenses can be chosen (e.g. style of frames, or contact lenses with no frames at all). Use of such lenses was once stigmatised, but this is no longer the case. Whilst use of lenses does not carry a risk, eye surgery can do. However, the risks of eye surgery are explained to clients beforehand, and the sector is highly regulated. It’s also possible to do nothing – there is rarely pressure to correct impaired vision.

        Bringing treatment for stuttering to the same standard as that available for the treatment for other impairments seems realistic and achievable. So, overall I think we should increase options for those who stutter, rather than decreasing them. However, I also think we should regulate more stringently than we do at the moment, and that doing so could prevent situations such as the ones you have described.

        Max

        • Hi Max,

          I appreciate us having this discussion.

          You wrote that “I think that the fundamental problem follows from fluency shaping being the wrong therapy choice for a person, and/or being delivered ineffectively, rather than something intrinsic to fluency shaping itself. ”

          I suggest that the fundamental problem is the perceived need for fluency. Or, rather, the fundamental problem is the stigma of stuttering and the resultant discrimination and invention of fluency shaping. I believe that fluency shaping is fundamentally flawed since it teaches the person who stutters to suppress their stuttering instead of letting it be. Suppression of stuttering enhances fear and shame of stuttering which can then lead to more struggle with stuttering, and more shame and fear.

          So we have Stigma causing the perceived need for fluency causing fluency shaping causing suppression of stuttering causing more fear and shame and struggle.

          True, this is not always the case, but I suggest is true much more often than not.

          Why do we even reach for fluency shaping as a tool? Because of stigma. There are, after all, other and better tools for helping to ease the struggle with stuttering that causes the “severe” stuttering.

          Let’s say that a person who stutters has a severe stutter. OK. Help the person to understand their stuttering: what is native to stuttering (repetitions, prolongations, maybe some blocks) and what is due their struggle with stuttering (tension, fear, shame, trying to force words out, etc.). True, I am not a speech therapist and there is possibly a lot that I am missing. However, since the problem is not stuttering, but rather stigma and the struggle with stuttering, a tool that creates artificial fluency, with a lot of effort and struggle in and of itself, is not necessary and is even harmful.

          I agree with you that therapy must be client-centric, and that various therapeutic approaches must be offered to a client and explained to them properly. Fluency shaping should, in my opinion, simply be off the table, because of the reasons I mentioned above. There is no need for fluency shaping. One last argument here: a person who stutters who has so-called “severe” stuttering and is consumed with fear and shame, such as myself 10 years ago and more, will grasp desperately at anything that has a hint of a cure. Fluency shaping has such a hint. The result is that it is nigh impossible to let go of that promise of a cure. And that just leads to more struggle and more suffering.

          What do you think?

          Hanan

          • Hi Hanan,

            I agree with a lot of what you are saying. However, I still don’t think that fluency shaping should be banned. There are various reasons for this. One is that there are some who stutter who can be helped by fluency shaping. Another is that new therapies for stuttering are often based around fluency shaping.

            A more controversial reason is that some who stutter may wish to remove observable stuttering entirely, and fluency shaping can help them to do so. Although attempting to remove stuttering entirely would not be my preference, I think it remains the right of anyone who stutters to pursue such a goal provided they are informed about the risks in doing so and have given their consent to associated procedures. This is the same as the argument for experimental therapies such as drug treatments and brain stimulation. Limiting therapy options and preventing development of some types of therapy does not seem an overall benefit to people who stutter. I can understand that others might disagree with this. However, I’d suggest such a debate is not specific to stuttering, but rather is a generalised debate about whether people should be able to change their identities, appearance and so on. I’m not sure we need to rehearse the for and against arguments here, but we can do so if you want 🙂

            You suggested a distinction for PWS between “what is native to stuttering (repetitions, prolongations, maybe some blocks) and what is due their struggle with stuttering (tension, fear, shame, trying to force words out, etc.)”. Based on this, I’d suggest that stigma is not always the fundamental source of disadvantage related to stuttering. Some of the disadvantage can be intrinsic to stuttering itself. For example, stuttering can lead to words taking half a minute or longer to say, with the speaker becoming physically and mentally exhausted afterwards. These experiences are not pleasant. One time, I had a stuttering block so severe that I felt I was going to create a trepanation in my skull. I was light-headed for an hour afterwards. This experience was not due to stigma on the part of the listener or me. Rather, the problem was within stuttering itself.

            There can be a distinction between socially constructed disability ¬– which you have referred to as stigma – and disadvantage created by impairments themselves. In disability studies, the latter disadvantage is referred to as impairment effects. In stuttering, we do not at present have a detailed account of impairment effects. However, I would suggest that to a first approximation, the struggle behaviours you and I have referred to are impairment effects for stuttering. Reducing impairment effects is as much a focus in disability activism as reducing societal stigma. Indeed, reduction of impairment effects can often have the greatest urgency, because it can offer the most immediate relief to those disadvantaged by an impairment.

            There are not many treatments for impairment effects in stuttering. Fluency shaping is one of the handful which do exist. As for any therapy, it can be misused. So, it seems to me that what is needed is guidelines for therapists considering use of fluency shaping, and these should include contraindications for when fluency shaping will not be suitable, and training in the use of alternatives to fluency therapy. For example, it’s clear that you should not have received the type of fluency shaping therapy that you did, and I don’t think I should have done either. In both cases, a therapist with better training might have offered a more appropriate therapy. Despite this, I would not want fluency shaping banned. Rather, I think the appropriate response is for greater regulation and quality assurance of stuttering therapies in general.

            Max

            • Hi Max

              I agree that my perspective was somewhat limited, and proposing that fluency shaping should be banned was perhaps a step too far on my part. I am still thinking about this, and thank you for your perspective.

              However, I still consider fluency shaping, as it is practiced for the most part at present, to be abusive and harmful. I am actually still convinced, at present, that it is unnecessary, but I am trying to remain open to your ideas. I am upset to read that “new therapies for stuttering are often based around fluency shaping”, simply because of the potential for abusive therapy. But of course this is only my opinion, my emotion.

              I believe that limiting therapy options, when those therapies are harmful, is actually the right thing to do. There are plenty other therapy options and approaches in the clinicians tools box. All the same, to your point, if, and it’s a very big if, there was proper regulation and quality assurance of stuttering therapies, and if there were clear guidelines on how to use fluency shaping while being aware of and avoiding the negative aspects, and actively monitoring those negative aspects, then that would change the picture entirely.

              Stuttering is fascinating in its complexity. For example, when you write “stuttering can lead to words taking half a minute or longer to say”, I wonder, with curiosity and without judgment, whether cases like that are actually due to the native stuttering or due to the struggle that we add. I am trying to explore this in my own behaviors, and so far, for me only, I am convinced that the long blocks/struggles are part of the secondary behaviors and habitual patters that I developed over the years. In addition, in those case, I know without a doubt that fluency shaping would not help me. In those cases, all my speech motor organs are tensed up and I am not breathing. I cannot possibly do fluency shaping then. And when I let go of my fear, and relax my body, and breathe, I do not need fluency shaping to continued speaking. I am not denying or minimizing the experience that you reported.

              Thank you, Max.

              • Hi Hunan,

                Fluency shaping is by far the oldest stuttering therapy. It is very easy to implement, and can exist in almost endless forms. A ban on fluency shaping seems almost impossible in practice, even if it was desirable in principle (which I have argued cannot be the case, most strongly following rights-based considerations).

                An anecdote might help to illustrate. In the early days of speech pathology (1940s–1960s) people who stutter dominated stuttering research, and almost entirely determined the direction of stuttering therapy. They hated fluency shaping, and created a new therapy (which would become stuttering modification) intended to end the practice of fluency shaping for good. These researchers were horrified when fluency shaping popped right back into the spotlight at the end of the 1960s. The rationale then was servotherapies (e.g. as based on delayed auditory feedback). This gave substantial theoretical support to use of fluency shaping, which was suddenly repositioned as the exciting new therapy, whereas the chronologically much newer stuttering modification was relegated to being a “traditional” therapy, much to the dismay of its creators.

                A similar development has happened since brain imaging of stuttering began to be a major research area in the mid 1990s. This is the huge volume of research, still ongoing, which is used among other things to support the proposition that stuttering should be classified as a neurodivergence. The same research again provides theoretical support for the use of fluency shaping as a stuttering therapy. The rationale is really strong (just like it was with DAF). So once again, we find fluency shaping portrayed as an exciting new therapy.

                What might be underlying this apparent mismatch is that fluency shaping can be great for changing speech behaviour, but it does absolutely nothing for the psychological effects of stuttering. If fluency shaping is to be used to treat stuttering, I would recommend that it be preceded and followed by extensive psychological therapy. Unfortunately, there are therapists who do not include an adequate psychological component. If you are recommending that such therapists stop treating stuttering, I’d be inclined to agree.

                Max

  5. Hanan, thank you for your thoughts regarding this issue. You have a lifetime of experiences which are highly valuable in informing treatment practices for people who stutter. I appreciate your directness and openness to share exactly how you feel. We share the view that fluency focused therapies can be harmful and I particularly think that “sending mixed messages” has been the major crux of the downfall that is treatment for PWS in past decades. Nonetheless, I will say that some fluency shaping and stuttering modification techniques intended to increase fluency or decrease struggle behavior can have a motivating effect for PWS to enter into situations where they previously would only avoid. In my own therapy experience in college (which was wholistic and multidimensional) I was able to learn and use preparatory sets and other tools which helped me (or at least I thought) communicate more easily in situations, resulting in increased approach of feared scenarios, more communication satisfaction and a more positive attitude toward my speech. The major theme in my personal pursuit of self-actualization and managing stuttering well was the mantra “saying what I want to say, regardless if I stutter or not”. As I get older, fluency has become less and less meaningful, and spontaneity and authenticity are what I am striving for now. Perhaps I could have gotten to where I am now (and even quicker) with solely an avoidance-reductionist approach. Nonetheless, those speech strategies I learned seemed to have led to neural re-wiring of motor speech pathways, inducing generally more fluency in my speech, making it less struggle-some to communicate. Of course, perhaps in those situations where I am stutter free, I am further inflating the false role/identity of a fluent speaker, as Sheehan would say, so that those times when I do have fluency breakdown I am subject to more shame and negative affectivity.

    It is becoming increasing clear the relationship between concealment and avoidance of stuttering and mental health – particularly in regards to anxiety. What your paper gets to, which I think is the underlying theoretical problem for stuttering treatment in our lifetime, is this classic “fluency strategies versus no fluency strategies” debate. A recent paper by Lowe & Colleagues (2021) outlines the clinical problem I am referring to. They call into question the role that speech restructuring plays in the development and maintenance of social anxiety in PWS. I think more research in this area needs to be done which determines if fluency shaping, stuttering modification, or any any of these speech “tools” can be viewed as “Safety behaviors” themselves and if they truly further exasperate speaking related anxiety in PWS. Of course – group trends can only tell us so much about the experience of stuttering. As each persons experiences are so nuanced.

    It is the therapists role to walk with the PWS on their journey where the client will ultimately have to decide for themselves what works and doesn’t work for them. Of course, therapists have an ethical duty to never sell snake oil. As a person who stutters, speech therapist, and researcher, I think often about these ideas on a daily basis, and how I can best serve those who stutter. I and many SLPs certainly want to do no harm. Thank you for bringing your ideas to the limelight. It is my hope our field continues to have healthy exchanges of ideas with a shared goal of improving the lives of people who stutter.

    • Hi Randy

      Thank you so much for writing and for sharing your experiences and thoughts on this topic. Stuttering is complex, and everything you wrote is part of this complexity.

      I understand the argument that fluency shaping “can have a motivating effect for PWS to enter into situations where they previously would only avoid”. For many years I agreed with this, from a point of empathy towards the PWS who believes that they cannot say a word and yet they are shown that the can, in fact, speak. It’s very powerful.

      However, as I replied to Max above, I believe that (a) there are other tools that can have this effect, and (b) fluency shaping solves the wrong problem and creates (ok, has the potential to create) more problems. The problem is stigma. We don’t suffer from stuttering, but rather we suffer from stigma. Because of the stigma our stuttering goes from repetitions and prolongations, and perhaps some blocks, to full-on secondary behaviors. And shame and fear. I cannot say for certain, but I suspect that speech therapists are taught fluency tools instead of cognitive behavioral tools or tools to train parents on how to accept the child’s stuttering, and this comes, I suspect, from the erroneous belief that stuttering should be fixed.

      We reach for fluency shaping because it can bring short-term behavioral change. You teach me an easy onset in the clinic, and “hey presto” I don’t stutter. We know that carry-over from the clinic to outside the clinic is horrendously difficult and mostly prone to failure. Why give a person false hope of fluency? I know how desperate I was for that fluency, and how desperately I clung to this hope that fluency shaping gave me. And I know that my experience is not unique.

      We only think that we need fluency strategies because that’s what we’ve been taught for so many years. The concept of “Fluency strategies” enhances the stigma of stuttering. How about instead of that we speak about living-my-life strategies? Radical self-acceptance, learning that we are not defective and we do not have to live in fear. Learning that we can tell the teacher who mocks us that they are out of line. It’s really, really difficult, but such an approach will, I have no doubt, create more resilient children and then adults who stutter. And speaking of resilience, let’s teach resilience tools instead of fluency tools. Let’s help the PWS understand stuttering, understand their secondary behaviors, and walk with them while they attempt homework such as speaking about stuttering in class instead of learning how not to stutter?

      I am sure that one answer to me (not necessarily by you) would be “But that’s too hard. We don’t have the resources for it.” Ok, so let’s give an abusive treatment to children instead, because it’s easier? No, we really have to put a stop to this.

      You write that “Nonetheless, those speech strategies I learned seemed to have led to neural re-wiring of motor speech pathways, inducing generally more fluency in my speech, making it less struggle-some to communicate. ” This is really interesting, and I mean that genuinely. I have heard the “neural pathway re-wiring” theme before. But let’s consider my case: I have a lot more fluency (ugh, since my fluency brings back my old shame and fear of stuttering) now than I had 10+ years ago. I did not do fluency shaping. I studied about stuttering, I attended self-help conferences, I presented at conferences, I learned a lot about shame from Brene Brown, I studied (and study) life-enhancing practical philosophies from Mark Manson, Ryan Holiday (Stoicism), Thich Nhat Hahn (Buddahism). I learned mindfulness and mindful meditation. I learned to differentiate struggle from stuttering, and I learned to be in the moment of stuttering since that is where I can stop my struggle where I am suffering. I disclose my stuttering in most business meetings. I am not writing this from a point of ego. Not at all. I really am no one. I am just saying that I have a much easier time speaking, and I did not go through fluency shaping for it (fluency shaping only made my stuttering worse, and enhanced my suicidal ideation quite nicely).

      I am sure that we can do things differently, all by approaching the problem from the source: Stigma. And rejecting the stigma, and learning how to avoid avoidance and how to stop struggling. Along the way we can learn pride and confidence.

      What do you think about this, Randy?

      Thank you.
      Hanan

      • Hanan, I love your passion for this topic. I am on board with a lot of what you have said and I agree that stigma is the root of the “problem”. Of course, for those whose stuttering is more frequent or has longer duration and physical tension, in the absence of environmental stigma, stuttering can still be uncomfortable, struggle-some or something people might want to alter. I am deeply interested in best practices for stuttering treatment and live each day taking in new information which shapes my views. As an SLP I am learning more and more that PWS come to us often wanting to reduce their stuttering or change the way they speak. It’s not my job to force any one treatment philosophy on them. Of course, it is also my duty to not unethically teach them avoidance and escape behaviors. It is my duty to educate them about available evidence of different treatments and work with them to create holistic goals that meet their needs. Chamonix described beautifully in her video post how its the SLPs role to meet clients where they are at and walk with them as they engage in stages of change. The pendulum of stuttering treatment swings – and its important we continue to scrutinize current evidence, while not simply buying into whats popular. I’m optimistic about the future as there are many, highly skilled researchers in our field conducting work that will lead us to answering these questions and establishing empirical data on what truly “works” and what doesn’t. Thanks again for engaging with me and for all you do for moving the field of stuttering forward Hanan.

        Randy

  6. Thanks Hanan,
    I appreciate the discussion you’ve stimulated and loved reading all these perspectives. My disclosure: I am not a person who stutters–and with that, my opinion maybe rejected. And, I have spent 45+ years sitting across the table from a child or adult who stutters. They come in all sizes, shapes and colors; each with a unique experience that needs to be taken into consideration. AND, they bring with them parents, spouses, partners and siblings who are sharing a different type of experience. Holistic therapy includes those significant others.

    There is so much that I agree with in all of your statements! Max makes an excellent point about the treatment delivery, which so often is done by inexperienced Speech Language Pathologists (SLPs) with little or no training in stuttering. It is heart breaking for me to see the graduate programs across the nation decrease the number of stuttering classes taught. If you attend graduate school at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, you will receive no training in stuttering and instead hear three lectures in the Child Language course about stuttering. Two of the intensive fluency programs on the US East Coast– use “technicians” to teach fluency shaping who are not even studying to be SLPs. Additionally, there are many SLPs with graduate training who still don’t have a strong enough knowledge base to conduct appropriate therapy. When poorly trained therapists “teach” fluency training to a young child, the result is not only an increase in shame, but an increase in aberrant behaviors (respiratory irregularity while trying to “hit the target,” etc.) SLPs need to be life long learners and continue to follow the research because is it rich and we are learning more about the experience of stuttering every day.
    I also agree with Randy that there can be a place for the concept of “fluency shaping” but prefer the term “struggle reduction with voicing.” I have never liked the term “easy onset” because there is nothing easy about changing a block into voicing. I don’t typically focus on “fluency shaping” in my therapy, but many walk through my door with previous fluency shaping therapy and the last thing I want to do to add to their shame by implying they didn’t recognize how bad the outcomes were that they spent two years developing. I try to find a “place” for it at the table. Did they understand voicing better from that experience? Do they know what was not helpful for them? I don’t care if they get to that voicing “easy” they just need to grab onto it and sometimes the concept of “easy” gets in the way. However, when someone says “continuous phonation” to me, it is clear that their SLP has not read any research since 1980 pertaining to stigma, using an authentic voice, or cognitive behavior therapy. I can’t find a place for that anywhere in my room. In highly read public publications about stuttering, children write in about their success with learning “robot speech” at school and it makes me sad to know the harm being promoted. Telling a child that you would rather hear them speak like a robot than stutter sends a powerful message of shame.

    I have also heard from others that they had good experiences with fluency shaping and I can’t dismiss their feelings of success and those people typically have also relied on cognitive behavior therapies and support networks, not “fluency shaping” alone.

    I guess my question becomes, is there a place in therapy for concepts based in voicing manipulation? I believe the answer is “yes” and I also believe that language is powerful and drives our thoughts and emotions. I believe the intensive programs directed by paraprofessionals with no understanding of the experience of stuttering is harmful. I also believe that finding a way to access voicing in the moment of a stuttering block can be powerful. You state, Hanan, that skills can be taught in the therapy room that are not easily transferred into the real world. This is true with cognitive behavior therapies as well. I use ACT, REBT and more recently Family Systems therapy to understand and manage the thoughts/emotions around stuttering. Discussing thought defusion and practicing it in the therapy room is easy. Finding ways to manipulate catastrophizing thoughts after a class presentation is difficult. All skills developed in the structured, comfortable therapy room are difficult to transfer and SLPs need to have this a priority for their plan of care.
    I guess what I am saying is; we need qualified Speech Language Pathologists, holistic therapy that includes the family, we need to start where the person is when they walk in your room, continue to add to our knowledge base with all the dynamic research that emerges each day AND listen to the child/adult who stutters. They know their experience the best.

    • Hi Rita

      I/we love you dearly, even if you aren’t a person who stutters :-).

      Thank you so much for adding your perspective and experience, which are so valuable in this discussion.

      I get your point that transfer of cognitive therapies and avoidance reduction outside the clinic are challenging, just as transferring fluency shaping is challenging. I do think that a key difference is that successful suppression of stuttering can (or has the potential to) increase our shame and fear of stuttering. For me, increasing my quality of life via cognitive practices (self taught, not in formal therapy) has taken many years, and I am still on my journey and still learning. The thing is, the cognitive approaches have improved my life immeasurably and not only with respect to stuttering. I have gained so much more than easier speech (less struggle, no fluency techniques) from my (self-)therapy than any fluency-focused therapy would have given me. I am aware that my sample size of 1 is statistically questionable and somewhat subjective. But I have seen the same effects in other people. I thank you once again for mentioning ACT to me all those years ago.

      I fear that clinicians might be reaching for fluency shaping in order to get short term results, even if those results are not sustainable, as opposed to the harder, longer cognitive and behavioural path. I don’t need to tell you how complex stuttering is. Of course, the clients and the parents might want the short-term results. They often do. They need to be made effectively aware of the pitfalls.

      You write that “I have also heard from others that they had good experiences with fluency shaping and I can’t dismiss their feelings of success and those people typically have also relied on cognitive behavior therapies and support networks, not “fluency shaping” alone”. I am always pleased when I read that people who stutter have found relief.

      Perhaps key to this whole discussion is how fluency shaping is taught, the controls around it, and the additional components. Max mentioned this, too. But until such time that fluency shaping can be responsibly integrated into holistic therapy that categorically recognizes that stuttering is a difference and not a defect, and categorically recognizes and rejects the stigma of stuttering, we are left with the present situation and tons of more suffering being created.

      It might be good for the profession to take a different approach: discourage fluency shaping until such time as the proper non-abusive methodology for applying it can be found.

      Thanks so much, Rita.

  7. This is such an absolutely wonderful article, Hanan. I think the way you put into words how fluency shaping can be harmful is very clear.

    This is some thing I’ve been thinking a lot about recently as well. After many discussions, with other people who stutter, my take is that the actual techniques might be OK for somebody to have in their back pocket. Something for them to do in a moment of awareness that they feel stuck, like on the phone with the CEO.

    The problem is this is NOT how fluency shaping is taught. Instead of just thought exactly as you outline in this blog post. With the goal been just that: fluency.

    Doug Scott commented on one of my posts that the trick to using fluency-shaping techniques is knowing you won’t sound “normal” and that you will stutter. So perhaps these techniques need to be renamed – what he references as successful isn’t fluency. It’s easier speech.

    You also really nailed something that only recently occurred to me – you can’t usually access a ‘tool’ in the moment of a stutter, because you are in flight or fight mode. I don’t think speech therapists realize this when they’re teaching these tools. So we, the client, understands it as – these need to be so ingrained in us, and using it so often, that it is natural for our speaking voice to sound like easy onset or whatever.

    The people who are able to use these ‘tools’ happily are people who have made peace with stuttering and aren’t in flight/fight mode in the midst of stuttering. The brain can process ‘okay I’ve been repeating j for 20 seconds, let’s try to slide into it’. But that is absolutely not the experience of most people who stutter, especially those in early therapy.

    I do agree with you that fluency-shaping needs to end. I think the people who use these techniques for the goal of easier speech are not doing fluency-shaping, they are finding ways to speak easier. The tools they use happen to bear those names, but we can rename those to more accurately state their use. We need to demand that any goal in speech therapy about “fluency“ is harmful and must end.

    • Hi Ezra

      Thank you so much adding your perspective to this discussion.

      For sure, one cannot “access a ‘tool’ in the moment of a stutter, because you are in flight or fight mode.”. In my case, Freeze the response that my body seems to prefer :-). In that moment of threat, I freeze. In order for those tools “to be so ingrained in us” that we can call upon them at the time of need, one needs to practice these tools daily during one’s entire life. Therefore, a fluency shaping tool is never something one an simply have in one’s back pocket. The fact that clinicians teach that is insane. It’s joins the insanity and abuse of “It’s OK to stutter, but why not use your tools”.

      Regarding the excellent point that “The people who are able to use these ‘tools’ happily are people who have made peace with stuttering and aren’t in flight/fight mode in the midst of stuttering.”: I maintain that if one can make peace with one’s stuttering, then one has no need for the fluency shaping tools. And, as you, myself and many others can demonstrate, it is possible to make peace with our stuttering, without fluency shaping, and live a much more fulfilling life.

      Thank you, Ezra. Take care.

      • That makes sense. I definitely see your perspective. In an ideal world, I fully agree with you.
        But since our world is not ideal, I have a hard time letting go of little things that may help someone who needs it emotionally. Even if just part of their journey.

        Or, in another thought, possible accessibility ideas. Perhaps a use of easy onset can help if you’re using a voice tool that isn’t accessible for PWS. Ideally, that doesn’t exist, but they do.

        I think people can get to a place of self-awareness during a stutter (I eventually got there) – so it would need to be clear that someone has to reach that before the ‘tools’ can possibly help them.

        I also think, I’d rather someone use one of those tools and say what they want to say, rather than avoidance entirely. It may just be part of their journey.

        But I also hear what you’re saying. It’s def making me think. Thank you!

  8. Dear Hanan
    I like blues music too.
    I think I agree with most everything that my fellow Mancunian Max has said to you.
    You are certainly sure that one size does not fit you and should not fit anyone else!
    You have obviously been very hurt by your experience with fluency shaping and are still carrying that with you, and it is still influencing your opinions, which in my opinion are unhelpful. What PWS need is more information/education/knowledge about stammering and therapy to be able to make an informed choice for themselves – not having you make it for them by having it banned.
    You are certainly entitled to your opinions and I admire you for expressing them – even though I think most people would not agree with a ban!
    I agree with your thought that there is a conflict between ‘it is ok to stutter’ and any form of therapy. Van Riper was trying to modify (or shape?) your stutter so there was less of it.
    Sheehan was bolder and was trying to eliminate it. I think the only way to be ok with stuttering is to accept it, eliminate avoidances and struggle and not be ashamed. Some people view block modification and avoidance reduction regimes just as hard work as fluency shaping.

    I attach a recent poem I wrote that you might like.

    Best wishes
    Tim

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    • Hi Tim

      Thank you for sharing your view and adding to the discussion.

      For what it’s worth, I, too, think, at this point in time, that the only way to be ok with stuttering is to accept it, eliminate avoidances and struggle and not be ashamed.

      I also agree that “What PWS need is more information/education/knowledge about stammering and therapy to be able to make an informed choice for themselves”, and I do a fair amount of such educating myself. However, most providers of fluency shaping do not provide enough information to make an informed choice. If this was done, and additional options and their pros and cons, things might be different. As it stands, from everything I have seen and not only my own experience, fluency shaping is abusive. In general. I am thrilled for those PWS who have had positive experiences, but I am absolutely horrified by the continuing trauma caused by fluency shaping. Well, not caused by fluency shaping so much as it’s irresponsible application. There is no reason for such treatment to be offered by people who do not understand stuttering sufficiently to people who are desperate for relief. It’s completely irresponsible, not because I do not want relief for people but because of the adverse effects of irresponsibly applied fluency shaping. We still reach for it since it has been around for so long, and because we are still subject to the stigma of stuttering.

      All that said, I value your opinion and your contribution to the discussion, including you telling me that my opinions are unhelpful. The topic is complex and warrants this discussion.

      Thanks, Tim.

  9. Hanan-

    Your submission was one of the first I’ve read and I’ve spent days thinking of an appropriate response to summarize how this article made me feel. So here is my well thought out response:

    “wow”.

    Just kidding, but seriously, WOW. First of all, thank you for your bravery to come out here and call fluency shaping what it is … potentially abusive. We have been dancing around it for so long, excusing therapists who practice fluency shaping by saying they have “good intentions”. There are many missing pieces in this puzzle we are all trying to figure out, why are we still doing harm? When there’s clearly so much pointing us in the right direction.

    The fact that there are people out there who can relate to being a “survivor” of speech therapy speaks volumes to how ignorant we have been to people’s lived experiences. It’s important to hold us accountable, especially the newer SLPs who can learn from those who have practiced long before we even knew we wanted to become SLPs.

    Thank you for this, just thank you.

    • Thank you very much, Nicole, for reading and for your response.

      I agree that “There are many missing pieces in this puzzle we are all trying to figure out”. I think that some other folks who responded are making that point, too. And I agree: If we can get dialog going then we can figure out the missing pieces.

      Take care, Nicole

  10. Hi Hanan
    Another thought! On reflection I don’t think I should have said that I found your opinions unhelpful. I apologise, especially if you were upset/annoyed.
    I have been battling shame all my life and still am. I was very ‘touched’ by your pain.
    Have you had any counselling/psychotherapy for this. I have had lots. It has helped me identify and understand my pain/shame. However I have not practically overcome it. I have come to terms with it as best I can.
    In my therapeutic journey I have found out I have psychological issues (insecurity/anxiety/depression) completely unrelated to my stutter. These issues have adversely effected how I experienced and dealt with my stutter. In many ways these have been more important for me to deal with than my stutter.
    Best wishes
    Tim

    • Hi Tim

      Thank you for your thoughtfulness. There is no need to apologize, though. I was thankfully able to see your response as coming from your heart, from your experience, and I do not consider myself to know all the answers.

      Thank you for sharing your experience with shame. Thank you for your courage. I have battled shame all my life. I have had some very beneficial psychotherapy, but most of the work I have done for myself has been through my own reading and journaling. I discovered, for example, deep-seated beliefs of inferiority within me. I have experienced depression for most of my life, and social anxiety is a constant companion. It is likely that these experiences are not entirely related to my experience with stuttering. I try to avoid the “giant in chains” trap, and do not tell myself that if I did not stutter then I would not have any of the inferiority, shame, anxiety and depression.

      I am grateful to having being able to attend conferences on stuttering and to buy books and read about about shame. Brene Brown’s writings specifically have been invaluable in helping me “learn to live again” (shout out to Joshua Batten, an amazing musician from Australia). Learning how to deal with shame, depression, anxiety, inferiority has been critical for me.

      Thank you, Tim. I hope that we can meet someday and speak about these topics some more.

      Hanan

      • Hi Hanan
        It would be nice to meet – we sound quite similar. Let me know if you are ever in the UK.
        The therapist who helped me most is Sheehan. He showed me the way to psychotherapy.
        Another interesting therapist with a psychological angle is William Perkins – have you read any of his books?
        Bye for now
        Tim

  11. Very thought-provoking article and discussion, Hanan! I love the term you used, “life-enhancing therapies.” What a great question or “filter,” if you will, as we consider the therapeutic methods we embrace. Is this a life-enhancing approach? Is this a life-enhancing view? Is this a life-enhancing recommendation? Is this a life-enhancing interaction? Lots to ponder and consider, thank you!

    • Thank you, Ana Paula, for reading and for responding. It would be wonderful to have a discussion on this topic with you one day.

      Take care,
      Hanan

  12. Hey Hanan! Thank you for writing this, I think it’s a very important topic to talk about. I haven’t really formed an opinion on it yet, since I have never had speech therapy or was taught fluency shaping techniques. I do feel like it would not fit me, because it would make me go back to that place where fluency is good and stuttering is bad. I have to read more about the stuttering vs struggle topic, I think it would help me reduce struggle. The only ‘speech technique’ I’ve found helpful is voluntary stuttering, as it seems the goal is not to speak fluently, but to reduce struggle. I think I’m physically not able to use any speech techniques that are fluency focused, because I love myself too much, haha.

    • Hey Willemijn! Thank you so much for reading, and for responding.

      Yes: fluency shaping takes us back to struggle. It’s diametrically opposed to your teaching of “Just Stutter”, which is empowering. When we “just stutter”, we don’t have to hide. Fluency shaping teaches us to hide our stuttering, and – here’s one of the big issues – it’s a lifelong task. One has to practice every day, all of one’s life, in order to use the fluency shaping tools.

      If you would like to chat about the stuttering vs struggle topic, I am available for you, as I am sure many other people are, too.

      I love that you love yourself as you are. Keep on.

      Hanan

  13. Hi Hanan,

    I am a graduate student entering the field of speech pathology very soon. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts and completely agree that one size does NOT fit all. It is super important to remember that the thoughts and feelings of the person seeking out therapy are first and foremost the most important part of the therapy process.

    You talked a lot about how sometimes therapy can be potentially harmful. With that in mind, what advice would you give to someone who is primarily based in therapeutic approaches?

    Thanks,
    Emily, future SLP

    • Hi Emily

      Thank you for your question.

      I think that the following things should be taken into account with therapeutic approaches:

      1) With stuttering, the problem is the firstly the stigma and not the stuttering. One has to know that we suffer from the effects of the stigma, and these include fear, shame, trauma, and the resultant need to “fix” the stuttering.

      2) There is no cure for stuttering. Please avoid using therapeutic approaches that promise, or even suggest, fluency. Therapy that promises fluency is perhaps the most harmful approach.

      3) Acceptance of stuttering on your part. You need, in my opinion, to know without a doubt that it really is OK to stutter. Your job is to help the PWS understand this, and to help them be aware of and reject the stigma.

      4) Learn about struggle vs. stuttering. A lot of what is called stuttering is actually the struggle with stuttering: physical tension, involuntary movements, and all the ways of avoiding feared words. Help your client identify what is stuttering and what is struggle, and then guide them is letting go of struggle. To do this, one has to understand why the client struggles against stuttering. There is thus a need to be a counselor, too.

      5) Anecdotal evidence from people who stutter. Attending self-help meetings and conferences, and speaking with people who stutter, will give you good insight into therapeutic approaches that helped and that harmed.

      6) Evidence. What is the evidence for the efficacy of a therapeutic process. This evidence should come from peer-reviewed research with multiple sources showing the same findings.

      These are some of the things that come to mind. There is not necessarily a priority to these.

      I hope this helps, Emily. If you need more help, or if something is not clear, feel free to reach out to me at hanan.hurwitz@gmail.com.

      • This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much for such a thoughtful reply! I will be passing this information along to my fellow cohort members, as I believe it would be very beneficial for us to all keep in mind!

        Thanks again!
        Emily

  14. Hanan,

    I really appreciate your candid and direct approach to this topic. It was very informative. As a speech-language pathology graduate student, I want to be mindful of how I approach developing treatment plans that are client-centered and not “cookie-cutter.” That is something very valuable I have learned in my recent clinical experiences. It is important to consider what the patient or client wants to accomplish rather than looking at treatment from solely the clinician’s perception of what you feel should be addressed.

    • Hi Sofia

      Thank you for your response.

      I agree that “It is important to consider what the patient or client wants to accomplish “. The difficulty arises when the client simply wants complete fluency. I completely understand why a client would want that, having been in the same situation myself.

      The challenge for the therapist is to explain that it is not possible to get rid of stuttering, but that there is a lot that can be done to reduce the struggle with stuttering and to move towards living the life that we want irrespective of stuttering.

      Wishing you much success with your studies and your career.

      Hanan

  15. Hi Hanan

    Firstly, I love this quote “We must keep an open mind, but not so open that our brains fall out”. Yes yes yes! Secondly, you know how the word Fluency has been one of my windmills. Fluency should not be the goal. Speaking is. Saying what you want to say, the way you feel comfortable with. And sure, for some that’s fluency, while for others it can be just to vent, to understand more, to get out of a block, to get rid of fear, to get the tools to relax, or even to get the understanding about stuttering to be able explain to others. And everything in between! For some even no therapy at all, for whatever reason, and these reasons should also be respected. This is why another one of my windmills is to listen to the client, discuss what’s out there and offer a smörgåsbord, explaining what everything is and let the client find what s/he likes to try, no promises made. And if the client wants herring with jam, or in this case ACT with yoga, so be it.

    The theme is also about people who think we are all the same, treat us the same, and think we all have the same needs. There is f ex a great Swedish researcher who has found out that not only men and women feel differently about their stutter, but are also treated differently. But instead of putting us all in the same box: listen to us, talk to us, ask us. But without giving advice, telling us to slow down, telling us about that fantastic quick fix, pushing us into feeling shame and being a burdun. We can both breath and talk. But the listener might need to learn how to listen.

    Yes, for some PWS it is a problem, while for others it isn’t. One huge problem is that not all SLPs are certified, not all SLPs have studied stuttering more than just a few weeks. That’s why I love this conference. The variety of people expressing their thoughts, experiences, treatmens and research. And those who come to learn and ask questions, getting replies from the horse’s mouth instead of only from books.

    I have been abused, neglected, guilted by SLPs, and later I found out what these SLPs had in common: they were all focused on my stuttered syllables (another one of my windmills 😉 ), instead of on me, their client. Today there is a shift, which also shows from this year’s submissions. But yes, we need to call out the fakes, the bullies, the quacks. And not only show the no-longer-stuttering VIPs, as they don’t add value, just guilt and hurt, hearing them saying you can do this and that, while being completely fluent. And that’s why WE need to speak up.

    I’m so happy for all SLPs and other professionals who get it. For all the PWS who speak up in social media, blogs, vlogs, reels, writing books, etc. We need the media to include PWS, not just send programmes where PWS suddenly are fluent (for a short while), as if that is the goal. We need people like Willemijn, Pam Mertz, Ezra Horak, Marc Winsky, you and me, but luckily also fantastic allies who speak up and call out those who keep us under a yoke. We sure can speak, so people better start listening. For once we start talking, we will no longer shut up, talking the way we are shaped from the start.

    Thanks for getting me up on my soap box. 😉 And for chasing windmills. Blessing to you and your near ones, for many reasons.

    Happy ISAD and keep talking!

    Anita

    • Thank you, dear Anita, for this response.

      Happy ISAD, and thanks for all that you do.

      Hanan

  16. I enjoyed your contribution to this conference. As a second-year graduate student, it is good to hear opinions such as these because our job should add to the life of the client and not make them feel uncomfortable or abused. The quote that was used by Jack Sparrow “The problem is not the problem, rather it is your attitude about the problem, was very thought-provoking and something I will keep in mind as I finish school and begin to practice.

    • Thank you for your response.

      Wishing you success in your studies and your career.

      Hanan